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Nautilus said:
I'll just leave this here:

Never trust polls, especially when it's still this far off the election. Most polls pointed to Trump defeat in 2016, and look what happened. Same thing happened in Brazil, and I bet the same thing happens in most countries.Hell, if you look at other US elections, you will probably see the same pattern.

It has nothing to do if Trump is winning on them or if he is losing. Polls are historically unaccurate, especially in these past 5 or 6 years.

Actually, polls had Hillary's lead dwindling to around the 3 point range at the tail end of the 2016 election, well within the margin of error, in which she still won the popular vote. In the 2020 polls, Trump is getting DESTROYED, including all the swing states, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

He's also a historically unpopular President with the worst approval rating of any president running for reelection since Gerald Ford. And his COVID response (or lack thereof) has depleted his already minuscule numbers. This idiot has skyrocketed the deficit, wished well a known sex trafficker, gotten hundreds of thousands killed and is actively trying to get 23 million people kicked off their health insurance in the middle of said pandemic among so many other things, it's easy to see why he's not well-liked.

That's why Donnie Dumb Dumb is desperately trying to delay the vote: he knows he's in deep shit.

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KManX89 said:
Nautilus said:
I'll just leave this here:

Never trust polls, especially when it's still this far off the election. Most polls pointed to Trump defeat in 2016, and look what happened. Same thing happened in Brazil, and I bet the same thing happens in most countries.Hell, if you look at other US elections, you will probably see the same pattern.

It has nothing to do if Trump is winning on them or if he is losing. Polls are historically unaccurate, especially in these past 5 or 6 years.

Actually, polls had Hillary's lead dwindling to around the 3 point range at the tail end of the 2016 election, well within the margin of error, in which she still won the popular vote. In the 2020 polls, Trump is getting DESTROYED, including all the swing states, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

He's also a historically unpopular President with the worst approval rating of any president running for reelection since Gerald Ford. And his COVID response (or lack thereof) has depleted his already minuscule numbers. This idiot has skyrocketed the deficit, wished well a known sex trafficker, gotten hundreds of thousands killed and is actively trying to get 23 million people kicked off their health insurance in the middle of said pandemic among so many other things, it's easy to see why he's not well-liked.

That's why Donnie Dumb Dumb is desperately trying to delay the vote: he knows he's in deep shit.

So... every Republican President ever? (the modern ones, not Northern Republicans). 



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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywa1fqPVp9o

    Trump really showed his complete ineptitude to everybody here.



    Trump reversing his stance on mail in pretty much proves that he knows he is in big trouble and has no choice but to changing his stance on things that he has greatly unpopular views in.



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    Bofferbrauer2 said:

    Have you seen the AXIOS interview with Donald Trump? Really a sight to be believed:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywa1fqPVp9o

    Trump really showed his complete ineptitude to everybody here.

    I saw highlights of that interview. He is a feeble and confused old man who not only has strong opinions on stuff he doesn’t even begin to understand. He struggles to articulate simple points.



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    Nautilus said:
    I'll just leave this here:

    Never trust polls, especially when it's still this far off the election. Most polls pointed to Trump defeat in 2016, and look what happened. Same thing happened in Brazil, and I bet the same thing happens in most countries.Hell, if you look at other US elections, you will probably see the same pattern.

    It has nothing to do if Trump is winning on them or if he is losing. Polls are historically unaccurate, especially in these past 5 or 6 years.

    A couple of things. Most polls pointed to Hillary beating Trump in the popular vote. She did, but she lost the Electoral College. 2016 taught a lot of pollsters how to avoid House Bias or House Advantage. House Bias happens when a pollster only polls their main viewership or readership. For example let's say AARP decides to do a poll. They then call AARP members, and nobody else. Well their poll is going to be skewed in favor of Trump since they only polled people 55 and up. 

    And finally, Biden is way further ahead in the polls than Hillary ever was. 



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    Cerebralbore101 said:

    2016 taught a lot of pollsters how to avoid House Bias or House Advantage. House Bias happens when a pollster only polls their main viewership or readership. For example let's say AARP decides to do a poll. They then call AARP members, and nobody else. Well their poll is going to be skewed in favor of Trump since they only polled people 55 and up.

    Not a single reputable pollster does that.



    NightlyPoe said:
    Cerebralbore101 said:

    2016 taught a lot of pollsters how to avoid House Bias or House Advantage. House Bias happens when a pollster only polls their main viewership or readership. For example let's say AARP decides to do a poll. They then call AARP members, and nobody else. Well their poll is going to be skewed in favor of Trump since they only polled people 55 and up.

    Not a single reputable pollster does that.

    And even those that do poll with a skewed audience use a weighting system to try to counter that bias.



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