I agree that the GDC presentation was a pretty bad first impression of the ps5. The SSD centric design sounds amazing but they dropped the ball by at least not showing a tech demo of what it actually can do. Now everybody is just talking about the Tflops as hardly anyone got what Cerney was talking about.

However, in the end it's not going to matter. Once Sony does their official unveil, show a box that actually fits under a tv, will likely be $100 or more cheaper and touch on games like HZD2, Spiderman 2, a new ND sci-fi game etc. making full use of the SSD tech by delivering incredible detailed open worlds, Gears 5 running at ultra settings will probably look boring as shit in comparison.

Both companies are coming out of the gate with 2 totally different strategies. But you have to understand that, in theory, the ps5 SSD tech will allow Sony's 1st party studios to do things with their games that the Series X simply can't and those games will likely stand out a lot. While on the flip side, Series X's exclusives will just be just be upscaled X1 games for the first couple of years, and will be held back by Lockhart for the remainder of the console generation. I just don't see that working out great for Series X, at all. 

Is that so? Last I heard, MS didn't make much money in the 360 era, one of the reasons being the 1bln+ $ they lost for the rrod fiasco.

How much money do you think the 360 made from Live Subscriptions alone?

That's not particularly relevant. You claimed that xbox 360 was overall more profitable than the PS3. Do you have any official source that supports that claim?

Anyway, if I have to make a guess, I think Gold Subs overall brought slightly less than 10bln $ revenues for the whole gen.

They did talk about updating your system and downloading stuff being faster, right? Had to update my PS4, Install Doom Eternal from the disc and now am waiting for the game update. Its like 40 minutes. Fucking ridiculous...

https://www.vg247.com/2013/01/07/xbox-360-and-ps3-losses-total-8-billion-ex-sony-employee-paints-grim-future/

"Microsoft has spent some $2.996bn on Xbox 360 since it launched in 2005, while Sony has fared worse, spending $4.951 billion on PS3. Both figures are a loss"

MS wont stat how much money they made off subs but you probably are not far off from the park. There 360 losses was made up with subs, where as the PS3 did not make up its losses with subs as it didn't have any. Take into account that the 360 also sold more overall software than the PS3 selling 1,008.03b to the PS3's 974.81m. Also we have the success of Kinect breaking records as the most fastest selling electronic device etc. If you take all that into account its not really rocket science to work out who made (or lost) more money last gen.

They're focusing on different things. Sony still has big games coming out. They aren't going to drown them out with non-stop PS5 talk. MS has nothing until XBX, so they really have no choice but to hype up next gen.

Even with its low key approach, Sony is swallowing the oxygen in the room. A logo reveal gained 5M+ likes in just a few days. Cerny's "boring" talk has gained more views and likes in less than 2 days than the XBX video from over a month ago. Did anyone even watch or talk about the stream MS put out on the same day as the Cerny talk? Cause the people I watch didn't.

Attack the argument not the person. That’s how I know you on the defensive. 
So you admit that it has the most views because the brand is stronger but objectively its another story (wasn’t the easiest to watch). 

That was 2007. Since then and for the rest of the gen the 360 made a ton of profit every year. And while we all hated it, Kinect especially made a lot of $$ in the later years. 

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