All companies have closures etc however MS were in a complete rebuild of the brand. Cancelling projects, closing studios and even rebranding from Microsoft Studios to Xbox Game Studios. They basically hit the restart button mid gen. Will see how they go next gen now that they have gotten over the hoops.

How will they get the sales? Exactly how they did it with the 360.

Then why aren't we seeing that now with the Xbox One? Xbox brand power should make it do better, right? We're seeing it in NA/UK where the Xbox brand isn't completely dead. 

I agree, I was decided on going ps5, but now that I know the backwards compatibility is not native, and I was impressed with xbox modular design and the vapor cooling and many more backwards compatible games and a better joystick position are 4 big wins for me (even tough I have a pro ps4 controller with the same joystick scheme, miles better than the dualshock. I even like the design because I keep my consoles vertically on the side (never enclose your consoles, let it breathe)

I don't care much for price, a 100 dollars difference is nothing if it means I get the better system for the next 7 years.

I will not pre order, I will wait for someone to test the fan noise levels, I do not want to go through what I went this generation that I ended buying 5 ps4s and the last one ps4 pro 7200 is still nowhere near as quiet as the xbox X, and has worse build materials too.

When MS done everything right and Sony done all the mistakes they could, and took over 3 years to correct PS still outsold Xbox. But for some reason he thinks that if PS4 made the same mistakes on launch as X1 and corrected then in 6 months they would still be outsold between 2:1 to 3:1. He won't accept Playstation have much more brand power and even if every gen starts from zero that didn't prevent PS to always sell consoles on the 90M or over.

theres no ps5 marketing yet as the console hasnt been revealed

That was a GDC talk not meant for us,wasn't really marketing to us but to devs. That said, PS5 is not going up against a TV TV TV TV SPORTS SPORTS NO USED GAMES or a Wii U this time. They are going up against a better marketed than XBO Xbox Series X and the hottest selling platform right now in Switch. I still think PS5 outsells Xbox SeX but not to the degree PS4 did. PS4 has full Japanese support,something Xbox will never have.

They put the PS4 logic into the silicon, that is just one step lower than having the full hw inside the silicon (like PS3 had for PS2), MS didn't talk about the BC being native or being on the silicon so it isn't any more native than PS5.

You'll really get burned if you expect to be able to swap CPU or GPU on Xbox Series X.

Because the 360 did not have the marketing and bad PR issues the Xbox One has. 

Don you answered your own post with your very first sentence. Much like this generation correct?

For us hardcore yes, but for the general public, no one really cares for xbox, most people don't even know there's a new one coming, most people I know here in Europe have decided on ps5 long time ago, its like xbox is not even an option here. The xbox one had a good chance because it came off the popular 360, so people were still curious about it, but now? I see no one here besides me talking about the new xbox.

99% of people will only learn about the new consoles through TV marketing, so if Microsoft really wants to make a dent in sony fanbase, they will need to advertise well, just like Nintendo did with the switch.

I liked what I saw from Microsoft side, but I'm realistic, I know how the market is at the moment and by Christmas time, the most talked consoles will be by far the ps5 and switch.

Microsoft had a chance to get us 360 fans back, with the xbox X, I bought one at launch, they promised the sun and the moon, but then no exclusives came, only online games, I don't play online, I loved Recore, one of the best I played the whole generation, but what else? Didn't like sunset overdrive, too ridiculous for me, didn't like gears 4, it was too linear and boring, didn't like halo 5, just as halo 4, boring, nowhere near the fist 3, ori was alright but I hyped it more than what it was, not as fun as rayman, and frustrating at times. They had stuff like Minecraft? Not even close to my thing, Quantum break I loved it, but the movies ruined the game for me, 20 minute movies each level? I dropped my review rating from 5stars to 3 stars just for that. Could have been top 5 game of the generation.

All in all, Microsoft promised too much but they didn't deliver, nowhere near what they promised. Sony didn't promise much, they deliver way more than I expected, Spiderman, God of war, Last of us 2, Bloodborne, Yakuza, final fantasy remake, Horizon, Uncharted 4, Persona 5, shadow of colossus remaster, Until dawn, Nioh, Resogun, infamous, ratchet and clank, Uncharted lost legacy, Detroit become human, The last guardian, Death stranding, Days gone, street fighter 5, Ghost of tsushima, and many more

Then add VR and you have a pure gaming machine for single player games.

Why do you guys think playstation fans are not so desperate for a new console? Because we are still waiting for the best exclusives to launch on ps4, we get plenty great games, who needs a new console with so many good games coming.

Xbox has a reason to rush into next gen, because they have nothing going for them now. That's why xbox fans are so excited for it, because they want something new to play.

PS4 was never backwards compatible at all, and no one ever said it was, sony never hinted at it being, so I don't know what you are talking about.

PS3 had a totally different acrchitecture than ps2, so backwards compatibility was more difficult of course no one expected otherwise. 

Is that jealousy the thing about swapping GPU? It sound like it. I suppose if sony announces the same then youll be excited? Tipical. Just accept that microsoft built a great device, period.