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Cerebralbore101 said:
A lot of the haters really should either play the game or just accept the aggregate review scores as truth. Too many haters are going off inaccurate or cherrypicked information from streamers/leaks. The game is a serious step down from previous games in the franchise, but still good enough to buy and play. I mean, 81/100 on Open/Meta is a very good score to have. Sure, it isn't 87 or 89, like a properly made Switch Poke'mon game would have been at, but it's still a damned good score. If people want to disagree with the Meta/Open score that's fine, but at least base it on having played the game yourself.

Hey guy. This is not about Pokemon being bad or good. It's this, "The game is a serious step down from previous games in the franchise, but still good enough to buy and play"

That has been the same story for almost a decade now. How many more step downs before a major step up is achieved? 



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Darwinianevolution said:

https://sensortower.com/blog/pokemon-go-revenue-august-2019

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-10-30-pok-mon-go-surpasses-usd3bn-lifetime-revenue

https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/71874/pokemon-go-collects-3-billion-in-lifetime-revenue/

Pokemon Go still makes money. And a lot of it. This is not going to stop just it's not in it's cenit.

Damn I made a horribly wrong assumption there. Well if they're looking at things from a maximum profits perspective, I can't argue that they should put more into the mainline games. 



Random_Matt said:
You really do not help the idea that Nintendo fans defend their franchises to death, sorry, this game warrants all the flak it gets.

You really do not read anything before posting do you?

I never said the game did not have flaws and that there was not debatable reason for someone not to want to play.  I was simply pointing something out that I thought about regarding traditional handheld games coming to Switch from devs that make traditional handheld games, and why this might not equate to a huge console experience that some might wish them to become.  Pokemon and the thought about battery life was the example.

But if your logic is that enjoying a game is being blind to its flaws and protecting anything, then all you are proving is how closed minded you are and how little you have brought to the conversation.

Flilix said:
Random_Matt said:
You really do not help the idea that Nintendo fans defend their franchises to death, sorry, this game warrants all the flak it gets.

Even as a total Nintendo fanboy, I'm starting to get this impression as well. Any major release of Nintendo gets a whole group of defenders by default.


It's pretty remarkable that the response of the Pokémon fanbase is mostly negative, while other Nintendo fans seem to go very far in defending it from the 'haters'.

The response from Pokemon fans on the internet have been largely negative.  However most of the Pokemon fanbase does not really participate in these forums, so there is no telling what the vast majority thinks.  Judging by sales of the game, it cannot be that bad.  And from the outside looking in, I have arguably seen just as many Pokemon fans on the net liking the game as those that hate it.

Full disclosure, I am looking at this from the outside looking in.  I am a gen 1 Pokemon player that stopped after yellow.  This is my first game to return to, and I am having a blast.  Most of the complaints regarding the national dex and the cuts mean NOTHING to me.  With that in mind, what I see is a good game that deserves the 8/10.

I am not defending the game, I almost did not buy it as I have said before (glad I did).  That is not even what this thread is about.  But what I am noticing is that fans who are upset about the success of the games for whatever reason somehow feel the need to hijack any discussion that mentions Pokemon just to complain about it.

Now Fililix, I am not refering to you when I say this as I know you to be level headed.  But when someone says that most of the Pokemon fanbase is upset about the game, they seem to using tunnel vision due to their own disappointment.  From the outside looking in, there are just as many who are fine with it as those that hate it and they are just attacking eachother.

The game has flaws, and I blame no one for not buying it for their own reasons.  But it is also a good game, and if it is still a mega hit for being a good game no one has the right to hate on those who bought it.  The vast majority obviously did not have a problem with it.  People who enjoy the game deserve no less respect than those who gave it a pass.



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Lonely_Dolphin said:

435 is a lower number than 800, that's simply a fact that wont change regardless of perception or preference.

435 at 1080p resolution vs 800 at 240p.  Also a fact that won't change regardless of perception or preference.

TruckOSaurus said:
Updating the title since at first read I thought it was something about your girlfriend's choice of visual.

This is now more interesting than the actual thread. What was the original thread title?



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SpokenTruth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Updating the title since at first read I thought it was something about your girlfriend's choice of visual.

This is now more interesting than the actual thread. What was the original thread title?

I didn't see the original title, but it must be as simple as "(...) GF's choice of visuals."



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SpokenTruth said:

435 at 1080p resolution vs 800 at 240p.  Also a fact that won't change regardless of perception or preference.

Indeed, but there are much more negative facts than positive ones, and if we wanna focus on graphics, just compare to pretty much any other Switch game. Anyway, the point was to show there is such a thing as objective value and standards. For you to jump in to his defense, I'd rather your purpose be to spite me than to seriously believe objective and subjective mean the same thing.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
SpokenTruth said:

435 at 1080p resolution vs 800 at 240p.  Also a fact that won't change regardless of perception or preference.

Indeed, but there are much more negative facts than positive ones, and if we wanna focus on graphics, just compare to pretty much any other Switch game. Anyway, the point was to show there is such a thing as objective value and standards. For you to jump in to his defense, I'd rather your purpose be to spite me than to seriously believe objective and subjective mean the same thing.

Can you highlight in my post where I alluded to such a thing?  I'd rather you objectively tear down my post than subjectively assume you did.



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Lonely_Dolphin said:
SpokenTruth said:

435 at 1080p resolution vs 800 at 240p.  Also a fact that won't change regardless of perception or preference.

Indeed, but there are much more negative facts than positive ones, and if we wanna focus on graphics, just compare to pretty much any other Switch game. Anyway, the point was to show there is such a thing as objective value and standards. For you to jump in to his defense, I'd rather your purpose be to spite me than to seriously believe objective and subjective mean the same thing.

No one ever said they were.



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Lonely_Dolphin said:
SpokenTruth said:

435 at 1080p resolution vs 800 at 240p.  Also a fact that won't change regardless of perception or preference.

Indeed, but there are much more negative facts than positive ones, and if we wanna focus on graphics, just compare to pretty much any other Switch game. Anyway, the point was to show there is such a thing as objective value and standards. For you to jump in to his defense, I'd rather your purpose be to spite me than to seriously believe objective and subjective mean the same thing.

By now that's the main reason why people keep responding to your posts, so yeah...



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RolStoppable said:
SpokenTruth said:

This is now more interesting than the actual thread. What was the original thread title?

I didn't see the original title, but it must be as simple as "(...) GF's choice of visuals."

Yep that's it. Felt strange that the OP took the time to write out 6 paragraphs but decided to save time on the title with GF instead of Game Freak.



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