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KLAMarine said:

Both sides are not equally good. Protesting against true, deep-reaching social injustices or protesting against fake, totally made-up election irregularities, it is not the same at all.

Fixed it for you

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JRPGfan said:
RolStoppable said:

Protesting against social injustice is bad, period. That kind of attitude brought us things like equal rights for women which in turn led to oppression of white males.

Its crazy to think before 1908, women in denmark couldnt even vote in elections.

Thats just a short 113 years ago.

USA it happend in 1965 (only 56 years ago).

Women in the USA were granted the right to vote in 1920 with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the constitution. The law was passed by the House and the Senate in 1919. Over 100 years ago.



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SvennoJ said:
JRPGfan said:

Its crazy to think before 1908, women in denmark couldnt even vote in elections.

Thats just a short 113 years ago.

USA it happend in 1965 (only 56 years ago).

What else is crazy

In almost half of the world's countries, there is no criminal law penalising either slavery or the slave trade. In 94 countries, you cannot be prosecuted and punished in a criminal court for enslaving another human being. Feb 13, 2020

Conservative estimate, still over 20 million slaves in the world.

its abit ago... probably under the brexit thread.... but I remember we briefly talked about modern day slavery.
It popped up in reguard to some area in the UK, where apparently it was "commond knowledge" that UK firms were exploiting people (slaves), and the politicans/police and everyone basically just looked through their fingers with it.  Was it clothes related? sweat shops? .... I remember being shocked that it was supposedly a issue in the UK (and more so, that apparently, leadership rolls in goverment reguarded it as "common knowledge" and just choose to not do anything about it (for years and years, and didnt plan to, even after journalists exposed it).

Wouldnt be surprised if in the USA, theres tons of illegals (mexicans) working under slave like conditions (effectively slaves, modern day versions), that then do stuff like pick fruit/veggies for the farms in the US, and stuff like that.

You think something like this only could happend in asia/africa or such but nope...

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RolStoppable said:

Both sides are equally bad. Protesting against social injustice or attempting a coup against the democratic process, it is all the same.

Nah, libs are way worse because they're hypocrites. One day they're protesting against cops and then you kill one for them and suddenly you're the bad guy.

RolStoppable said:
Machiavellian said:

Are you saying protesting is bad or the methods used.  Also are you stating all the people who protest or only a select few.  

Protesting against social injustice is bad, period. That kind of attitude brought us things like equal rights for women which in turn led to oppression of white males.

Don't forget it brought us female Trump voters. The worst deal in the history of deals.



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Hiku said:
KLAMarine said:

Fixed this again.

Every election has irregularities.
That's handled in each respective state. Not in D.C. after they've been certified.
Trump's legal team had 2 months to present a single piece of evidence of fraud. But in none of the 60+ court cases that they were laughed out of did they even alledge fraud. Because it's illegal to lie in court.

Trump Cries Voter Fraud. In Court, His Lawyers Don’t. - WSJ
- The Washington Post
Why Trump’s lawyers can lie to you but not to a judge - Chicago Sun-Times
In Court, Trump's Lawyers Aren't Claiming Sweeping Fraud | Time

The crowd in D.C. were there because Trump told them that;

- He won.
- Mike Pence could send back the certified votes.

None of these things were true.
But they were chanting "stop the steal". To stop the process of electing the certified winner.

I highly doubt that K will actually read any of those sites.  Look at the lawsuits submitted to the courts and their rulings and why but instead just believe the talking points of the people who make claims in public but do not make the exact same claim in court.  I have made the exact same argument with some of my friends who support the belief that the election was stolen from Trump.  I asked them to go to any court case were they actually brought up fraud claims instead of procedural issues instead.  I even showed them a case in Wisconsin where the court Judge asked the Trump lawyers to bring all the evidence of fraud that the president was claiming in tweets to be reviewed and when giving the opportunity, they declined.

Even court cases that try to bring up dead people voting, out of state, not registered, when you look at their data, there is no way they can actually prove any of it or even show that these scenarios benefited Biden over Trump.  When you really research the cases you see that the lawyers had no intention of these cases actually succeeding, instead they were used as a means for the President to continue his public statements of fraud, while in court his lawyers had nothing.



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smroadkill15 said:

What are peoples opinion on the 1.9 trillion relief plan?

It is a pretty damn good proposal. I love how so many people were like "Biden is basically a Republican and will never push for $15 minimum wage" and then it turns out to be the very first thing he does.



KLAMarine said:
RolStoppable said:

Both sides are equally good. Protesting against social injustice or protesting election irregularities, it is all the same.

Fixed this again.

No, this is frankly stupid. Protesting is legal no matter what you're protesting. That doesn't mean it's good no matter what you're protesting. Which was the clear point of the original post. 

At this point, burden's on you to show that they were protesting something worth protesting. That they were indeed there simply to "protest election irregularities" rather than to demand their chosen candidate is installed, and that there was a legitimate basis for believing such irregularities to exist. Hiku and Machiavellian's posts are a good point to start. And, the response should contain clear positive evidence rather than allusions to the mere possibility of confirming evidence somewhere out there. No need to respond to this post (in fact I'd prefer you didn't because you have enough people who are wasting time on this), but just wanted to let you know expectations, in the case that moderation happens which is looking possible.

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KLAMarine said:
RolStoppable said:

Both sides are equally good. Protesting against social injustice or trying to destroy democracy because your candidate lost, it is all the same.

Fixed this again.

Fixed it properly. There was never any proven systemic irregularities that could have changed the result of the election. There's a reason Trumps 60+ cases were almost all thrown out right away, it was all just Trump trying to avoid looking like a loser, pandering to his base's echo chamber, and grifting money through his "donate to stop the steal" fundraisers.



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