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Moren said:
RJTM1991 said:

I thought cancel culture was the in thing nowadays? Or does that only apply to the other side?

I see this so many times. Guy virtue signals and ends up being guilty.

Guilty of what?

Being what he supposedly stands against.

It's virtue signalling. The loudest people are always the biggest hypocrites.

Guy's on here, being condescending and poisonous to anyone who replies to him. All high and mighty. Claiming to be educated and unbiased, then you see that he's a massive hack.



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RJTM1991 said:
Moren said:

Guilty of what?

Being what he supposedly stands against.

It's virtue signalling. The loudest people are always the biggest hypocrites.

Guy's on here, being condescending and poisonous to anyone who replies to him. All high and mighty. Claiming to be educated and unbiased, then you see that he's a massive hack.

Which is...?

Unless you're trying to suggest having a sexual kink that's the business of two consenting adults as being equivalent to pedophilia, rape, and domestic abuse.. which would be laughably embarrassing on your part. 



RJTM1991 said:
Runa216 said:

I've been banned dozens of times for exactly that. The thing is, I'm right. I know how to search for actual, reliable sources instead of biased ones. I know how to parse my search results to get the RIGHT answer, when it appears people like you only accept the sources that agree with you. 

As I said, John Oliver has a history of being accurate and properly representing the issues, he just does so in a way that is comedic. That shouldn't devalue the information presented in his show. Facts are facts, you can chose to ignore them based on the source, but that's on you. I'm holier than thou because people like you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about; to people like you, I'm wrong not because of the quality of my sources or my ability to sift through information and get the right message from it, but because I don't agree with you. 

It shouldn't be considered arrogant to know you're right if you have the ability to actually understand the difference between facts and feelings. I don't see how it's pretentious to go where the actual information leads you. It should not be a bad thing to not be ignorant. People like you make it very difficult to have any sense of pride in one's own abilities, because people like you are wrong and so convinced you're right that anyone else that feels the same way but disagrees is the enemy regardless of the quality of their sources or their credentials. 

I'm not just some fool waving my personal feelings around. I'm arrogant because I'm right. I'm cocky because I know for a fact that I have the intelligence needed to differentiate between good resources and bad. I'm sure of myself because I am fairly regularly changing my views based on new evidence regardless of my personal feelings on the matter. It just so happens to be that there's no compelling new evidence or arguments on this forum yet bad information keeps getting passed around like fact, logical fallacies are everywhere, and entirely too many people think they know what the fuck they're talking about despite that clearly not being true. 

No, that's you.

And no, you don't know anything. Again, I think you live in a bubble. Your attitude shows that. Nothing you've typed makes me think otherwise.

We're at the stage now where it's no longer about politics, it's about right and wrong. And what the Democrats are doing is 100% wrong. You can sit on your high horse and talk down to people, but that just shows your ignorance. People like you are quick to judge and aren't willing to look at the world through other people's eyes. You're right and everyone else is wrong.

Dividing communities? Sexualizing children? Censoring people with opposing views and opinions? Rioting? Killing? Looting?

No. That's just wrong.

It's even at the stage now where saying you're a Liberal is essentially admitting to being a pervert. Look at the Me Too movement. Just about every man involved was a Liberal who abused his power. The shooting victims were perverts/paedophiles. The three martyrs abused women. The EVO guy likes little boys and the Smash community is rotten with it.

You can't say you're right when that's happening.

Ah, got it. You're one of THOSE people. Yeah I won't be engaging with you any further. 

Also, I've never been ashamed of the things I like. If anyone looks hard enough they can literally find gay porn of me online (Same username, by the way). Your ad hominem attacks mean nothing to me! this isn't even my final form! 



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Runa216 said:
KLAMarine said:

"So much of what I find infuriating about your points ... is that your stance really is 'well, any change might be off-balance in the opposite direction so it's therefore wrong'"

>How did you ever come to such a conclusion? I wish to know because that's not at all my stance.

Then you need to do a much better job communicating, becuase that's the impression that I get. 

Please help me out here: what posts of mine gave you that impression?



https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

"An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city."

Pretty stark difference from the narrative being pushed by conservative media.



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padib said:
Ryuu96 said:

What a pathetic, vile comment. You should be ashamed and frankly so should whoever gave you a like.

To this thread, I apologise, this user was actually in fact already permanently thread banned from this thread and somehow got around it, I don't know how but I apologise that it happened given how awful the thread has become now, lets try to get it back to a more reasonable form of debate.

I don't think you should be shaming RJTM1991, Runa was provoking him and everyone else like he always does. He poisons users and discussions with pure condescension.

I am somewhat happy RJTM1991 put him down, though I hope Runa will change by himself.  Even if I don't agree with RJTM's views per se. Also, we don't know what part of Mr. Fister RJTM didn't like, idk maybe it was this...

https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/b2n615/mr_fister/

Also, Moren. Really?

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9209916

then

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9210780

I don't understand how people allow this kind of behavior. 

I think you all need to relax a bit, take a step back! You're talking about things you care about, then show so much hatred to each other. I find it strange.

You can't sit there and tell people to avoid shaming people and then in the same breath accuse someone of poisoning discussion based on your previous interactions with them. 

Also, what RJTM did 'was' targeted harassment. They attempted to dig up "dirt" on the user and use it to out them as a way to shift the conversation to shaming them for their expressed preferences on an entirely different website. Perfectly legal between two consenting adults by the way, so not sure why it gave RJTM the right to try to equate a legal preference with pedophilia, rape, and abuse. 

I don't understand the both-siding here. Runa's past interactions with people shouldn't absolve anyone of responsibility to follow the rules of this forum to not take things to such a personal level in such an inflammatory way.



padib said:
Raven said:

You can't sit there and tell people to avoid shaming people and then in the same breath accuse someone of poisoning discussion based on your previous interactions with them. 

Also, what RJTM did 'was' targeted harassment. They attempted to dig up "dirt" on the user and use it to out them as a way to shift the conversation to shaming them for their expressed preferences on an entirely different website. Perfectly legal between two consenting adults by the way, so not sure why it gave RJTM the right to try to equate a legal preference with pedophilia, rape, and abuse. 

I don't understand the both-siding here. Runa's past interactions with people shouldn't absolve anyone of responsibility to follow the rules of this forum to not take things to such a personal level in such an inflammatory way.

I didn't intend to shame anyone, but can you honestly not see that people are being punished because of the incorrect behavior of another? Why is that behavior not addressed?

The truth is, this is a political thread. People are talking about things they care deeply about but in the same breath show so much intolerance.

I don't want to be part of that, but maybe somewhere somehow, by pointing out something that can help make this place better, I can help. If I couldn't then my gamble doesn't pay off. At least I did what I thought was right and tried.

While I'm here, let's ask ourselves the question, what are we trying to do in general when talking about politics? We see bad things in the world, hope for them to be better and talk about them to help each other see what is right morally and make things better somehow. But why, in the process, are we being so devoid of care for each other and each others' opinions. I don't know if I said what I hoped to say right, but in the end that's why I see from the outside.

I used to participate in these threads a lot, until I realized that there is so much intolerance that it makes things go backwards for me.

I don't want to distract from the point of this thread much further, but all I can attest to is my prior experience on the mod team, and situations where Runa had stepped out of line it was dealt with several times. I don't really think it's a call either of us should be discussing, and I feel like if it's something that bothers you a lot, you should talk to either CGI or one of the other mods who have been here a while, if only to clear the air and being able to express how you're feeling. 

Last edited by Raven - on 09 September 2020

What the hell is happening in here,thought this was US politics thread and not the official dogpiling like on twitter thread.
Imo it is also unjustified.



padib said:
Ryuu96 said:

What a pathetic, vile comment. You should be ashamed and frankly so should whoever gave you a like.

To this thread, I apologise, this user was actually in fact already permanently thread banned from this thread and somehow got around it, I don't know how but I apologise that it happened given how awful the thread has become now, lets try to get it back to a more reasonable form of debate.

I don't think you should be shaming RJTM1991, Runa was provoking him and everyone else like he always does. He poisons users and discussions with pure condescension.

I am somewhat happy RJTM1991 put him down, though I hope Runa will change by himself.  Even if I don't agree with RJTM's views per se. Also, we don't know what part of Mr. Fister RJTM didn't like, idk maybe it was this...

https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/b2n615/mr_fister/

Also, Moren. Really?

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9209916

then

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9210780

I don't understand how people allow this kind of behavior. 

I think you all need to relax a bit, take a step back! You're talking about things you care about, then show so much hatred to each other. I find it strange.

As that guy got banned, you also went on and used Runa's personal Reddit account to shame her / as a personal attack.

I can't even say you're both siding when you already came with a negative preconception about Runa that made you defend an alt-right homophobe to try and appear balanced.



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236

"White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security...Russia “probably will be the primary covert foreign influence actor and purveyor of disinformation and misinformation in the Homeland,”...None of the drafts POLITICO reviewed referred to a threat from Antifa...This draft document seems to be consistent with earlier intelligence reports from DHS, the FBI, and other law enforcement sources: that the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes...Violent extremists almost certainly will continue their efforts to exploit public fears associated with COVID-19 and social grievances driving lawful protests to incite violence, intimidate targets, and promote their violent extremist ideologies,” the second and third drafts reviewed by POLITICO say. “Simple tactics – such as vehicle ramming, small arms, edged weapons, arson, and rudimentary improvised explosive devices – probably will be most common..."