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KLXVER on 09 September 2020
TallSilhouette said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236

"White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security...Russia “probably will be the primary covert foreign influence actor and purveyor of disinformation and misinformation in the Homeland,”...None of the drafts POLITICO reviewed referred to a threat from Antifa...This draft document seems to be consistent with earlier intelligence reports from DHS, the FBI, and other law enforcement sources: that the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes...Violent extremists almost certainly will continue their efforts to exploit public fears associated with COVID-19 and social grievances driving lawful protests to incite violence, intimidate targets, and promote their violent extremist ideologies,” the second and third drafts reviewed by POLITICO say. “Simple tactics – such as vehicle ramming, small arms, edged weapons, arson, and rudimentary improvised explosive devices – probably will be most common..."

......Im having a hard time finding words. White supremacists are the biggest problem and threat in the US right now? I dont know what reality is anymore. The Twilight Zone has nothing on the real world 2020...



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sundin13 on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
TallSilhouette said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236

"White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security...Russia “probably will be the primary covert foreign influence actor and purveyor of disinformation and misinformation in the Homeland,”...None of the drafts POLITICO reviewed referred to a threat from Antifa...This draft document seems to be consistent with earlier intelligence reports from DHS, the FBI, and other law enforcement sources: that the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes...Violent extremists almost certainly will continue their efforts to exploit public fears associated with COVID-19 and social grievances driving lawful protests to incite violence, intimidate targets, and promote their violent extremist ideologies,” the second and third drafts reviewed by POLITICO say. “Simple tactics – such as vehicle ramming, small arms, edged weapons, arson, and rudimentary improvised explosive devices – probably will be most common..."

......Im having a hard time finding words. White supremacists are the biggest problem and threat in the US right now? I dont know what reality is anymore. The Twilight Zone has nothing on the real world 2020...

Far right terrorism has pretty consistently been considered the largest terror threat in the US, and that threat has only escalated in the last couple years. Not really sure why something that has been true for years should be considered surprising. 



KLXVER on 09 September 2020
sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

......Im having a hard time finding words. White supremacists are the biggest problem and threat in the US right now? I dont know what reality is anymore. The Twilight Zone has nothing on the real world 2020...

Far right terrorism has pretty consistently been considered the largest terror threat in the US, and that threat has only escalated in the last couple years. Not really sure why something that has been true for years should be considered surprising. 

Where is it? Unless BLM and Antifa are full of them, where are the white supremacists terrorizing people in the US?



sundin13 on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

Far right terrorism has pretty consistently been considered the largest terror threat in the US, and that threat has only escalated in the last couple years. Not really sure why something that has been true for years should be considered surprising. 

Where is it? Unless BLM and Antifa are full of them, where are the white supremacists terrorizing people in the US?

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/08/04/el-paso-shooting-patrick-crusius-white-supremacist-manifesto/1914965001/

23 dead.



TallSilhouette on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

Far right terrorism has pretty consistently been considered the largest terror threat in the US, and that threat has only escalated in the last couple years. Not really sure why something that has been true for years should be considered surprising. 

Where is it? Unless BLM and Antifa are full of them, where are the white supremacists terrorizing people in the US?

For one:

https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/



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KLXVER on 09 September 2020
sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

Where is it? Unless BLM and Antifa are full of them, where are the white supremacists terrorizing people in the US?

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/08/04/el-paso-shooting-patrick-crusius-white-supremacist-manifesto/1914965001/

23 dead.

Ok, is that a thing that happens all the time? Is that the biggest threat to the US right now? I mean its a horrible incident, but is that what people should worry about right now?  



sundin13 on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/08/04/el-paso-shooting-patrick-crusius-white-supremacist-manifesto/1914965001/

23 dead.

Ok, is that a thing that happens all the time? Is that the biggest threat to the US right now? I mean its a horrible incident, but is that what people should worry about right now?  

• In 2018, domestic extremists killed at least 50 people in the U.S., a sharp increase from the 37 extremist related murders documented in 2017, though still lower than the totals for 2015 (70) and 2016 (72). The 50 deaths make 2018 the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.

• The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists. Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

Yes.

https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download

And from 2019:

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Moren on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/08/04/el-paso-shooting-patrick-crusius-white-supremacist-manifesto/1914965001/

23 dead.

Ok, is that a thing that happens all the time? Is that the biggest threat to the US right now? I mean its a horrible incident, but is that what people should worry about right now?  

Yeah, what's a random act of terrorism here and there?



KLXVER on 09 September 2020
sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

Ok, is that a thing that happens all the time? Is that the biggest threat to the US right now? I mean its a horrible incident, but is that what people should worry about right now?  

• In 2018, domestic extremists killed at least 50 people in the U.S., a sharp increase from the 37 extremist related murders documented in 2017, though still lower than the totals for 2015 (70) and 2016 (72). The 50 deaths make 2018 the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.

• The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists. Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

Yes.

https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download

Wouldnt people driving be the number one threat. Im sure more than 50 people are killed in traffic each year. 



sundin13 on 09 September 2020
KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

• In 2018, domestic extremists killed at least 50 people in the U.S., a sharp increase from the 37 extremist related murders documented in 2017, though still lower than the totals for 2015 (70) and 2016 (72). The 50 deaths make 2018 the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.

• The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists. Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

Yes.

https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download

Wouldnt people driving be the number one threat. Im sure more than 50 people are killed in traffic each year. 

We are talking about terrorism...

Driving isn't usually terrorism....

...like, really?