| SpokenTruth said: Here it is, boys and girls. Democratic elites are saying the quite part out loud. "The party decides its nominee. The public doesn't really decide the nominee"
Obviously we are all aware of superdelegates and all that but to hear this to blatantly stated. So obviously intended to prevent a candidate like Sanders the nomination. It's such a "then why fucking bother having primaries and caucuses at all" moment. |
The New York Times have a lengthy and detailed article about it: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html
Long Story short, DINOs and Dixiecrats fear and hate Sanders more than Trump and want to get rid of him whatever it takes, even if the party would get split in two by doing so.
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As a Canadian the general consensus is that Bernie has the support but Bloomberg has the money. But since a socialist platform is far from a country wide sentiment it basically means it’s gonna be Bloomberg vs Trump in 2020.
The other candidates are dead in the water and they just don’t accept it yet. Anybody care to enlighten my outside perspective, is it accurate?
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| sales2099 said: As a Canadian the general consensus is that Bernie has the support but Bloomberg has the money. But since a socialist platform is far from a country wide sentiment it basically means it’s gonna be Bloomberg vs Trump in 2020. |
I'll open up with the national polling aggregate from Wikipedia:
As you can see, Bernie is far up front and the lead is growing.
However, Biden stopped dropping while Bloomberg got put down a peg after everybody ganged up on him, and Warren is following just behind.
If Biden does well in SC, he can keep his position as Bernie's main competitor for now. We'll have to wait until Super Tuesday to see what numbers Bloomberg is really pulling, but if he can't break out that day he may as well drop out then and there.
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Bofferbrauer2 said:
I'll open up with the national polling aggregate from Wikipedia: As you can see, Bernie is far up front and the lead is growing. However, Biden stopped dropping while Bloomberg got put down a peg after everybody ganged up on him, and Warren is following just behind. If Biden does well in SC, he can keep his position as Bernie's main competitor for now. We'll have to wait until Super Tuesday to see what numbers Bloomberg is really pulling, but if he can't break out that day he may as well drop out then and there. |
Biden surges in South Carolina which votes tomorrow, and this could give him momentum into Super Tuesday.
This is by far not over. Especially considering that the party seems willing to go very far to stop Sanders. As I see it he needs 55% of pledged delegates.
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Mnementh said:
Biden surges in South Carolina which votes tomorrow, and this could give him momentum into Super Tuesday.
This is by far not over. Especially considering that the party seems willing to go very far to stop Sanders. As I see it he needs 55% of pledged delegates. |
I'm a bit skeptical of the latest polls. One shows Bernie at only 11% (normally in mid-20s, so over twice that result), the other one drops Warren to 5% (normally around 10%) out of the blue, her lowest since she started running. Both have Biden at over 40%, way above what other polls show (even in the same timeframe).
While I was expecting Biden to win, I don't expect him to win by a large margin.
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Chris Hayes is dispelling wrong electability rumors on Sanders, saying that the Data just doesn't support all that fearmongering about him winning the primaries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxb5S87O23s
| SpokenTruth said: Even if Biden does good and SC and it generates some momentum push for ST states, I don't think it's going to be enough to overcome what is about to happen in California and Texas. In the most recent Texas polls, Sanders has a 9 point lead. That alone could erase any delegates gains Biden grabs from small southern states. And then there is California. The most recent poll gives Sanders an insane 21 point lead and in the past 2 polls, nobody else gets above 15%. Past 3 polls, only 1 other candidate topped 15% (Warren). That would give the majority of California's 416 delegates to Sanders. |
I agree.
What it could do is cement Biden for the second spot behind Sanders with Bloomberg, Buttigieg (really, why did so many candidate's names start with a B?), Warren and Klobuchar sliding further back during and after Super Tuesday.
Edit: While we're on it, here's cartoon Bloomberg after his devastating performance on his first debate 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSsRQ4UB1RY
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| SpokenTruth said: Even if Biden does good and SC and it generates some momentum push for ST states, I don't think it's going to be enough to overcome what is about to happen in California and Texas. In the most recent Texas polls, Sanders has a 9 point lead. That alone could erase any delegates gains Biden grabs from small southern states. And then there is California. The most recent poll gives Sanders an insane 21 point lead and in the past 2 polls, nobody else gets above 15%. Past 3 polls, only 1 other candidate topped 15% (Warren). That would give the majority of California's 416 delegates to Sanders. |
Yeah, I see Sanders winning the most pledged delegates, but this Biden-surge may be enough to deny him the majority. And at this point with all what was written and said over the last week, I see the possibility many party officials will deny Sanders the nomination if he only wins a plurality, even if they risk the future of the party.
19% in so far, Biden with 52%, Sanders 17.8%, no one else viable statewide. Predicted to be around 45% - 20% when all is done.
CNN compares the Jewish candidate to a deadly contagion, cuz that always goes over well:
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