Mnementh said:
LurkerJ said:
Few bits from the articles that make my eyes roll:
"Rogan has made his show a safe space for anti-Muslim bigotry as well. Islamophobia, like transphobia, has a history of being more tolerated in mainstream media outlets than other forms of bigotry, and the backlash against Rogan reflects frustration over that double standard as well."
So is Christianophobia but no one cares about that. Being Islamophobic, Christianophobic & religionphobic is not only reasonable, but necessary. After all, those religions have contributed heavily to the oppression of LGBT community throughout history & every where in the world. You should never be muslim-phobic, christian-phobic though, there is a big difference between the two.
Sick of the left taking the side of a religion that are composed of set of abhorrent believes just because there is a minority in the US that hold those value dearly. The left should stand for progressive values, not with a religion that goes completely against them just to please minorities. The mainstream believes among the majority of Muslims are far more dangerous than whatever Jo Ro ever said.
The author seems to have accepted the fact that Rogan is a bigot and it discusses where to go from there, which is a shame, but it's Vox so my expectations were low to begin with.
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Fear is a strong feeling, and as all strong feelings it turns off rational thinking. Therefore fear is very bad for basing political decisions on. But we can't ignore the fears either, because strong feelings while detrimental to rational thinking are still real and existant. We should therefore reduce the fears and reintroduce thinking rational about the issues. Most christians and most muslims are fine, and I say that as an atheist. Some of the messages in the religious texts are harmful, but over the centuries people got used to ignoring stuff in their religious texts or reinterpret it. Still, there are a few christian fundamentalists and islamic fundamentalists, that are damaging or endagering society (Westboro Baptist Church for instance). We shouldn't ignore these real dangers, but also shouldn't vilify everyone in these religious groups.
I want also add, that as fear is a strong emotion, it is despicable to use said fear for political gain. Fearmongering is used among the left and the right, and in both cases it is hurtful for all.
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We largely agree, I specifically mentioned no one should be muslims-phobic or christians-phobic, in other words, never vilify the individuals. Being religion-phobic on the other hand, is reasonable, this is why the term islamophobia irks me. You say that humans learned to ignore the harmful stuff in religious texts, the evidence suggests otherwise for some religions, especially when we're looking at the global picture, not just the western one.
The left has turned standing up for minorities into a mission, even when it doesn't make sense. The main focus should be standing up for the oppressed, not minorities, as not all minorities are oppressed after all.
Jo Ro has made his podcast "a safe space" for anti-christian "bigotry" as well, but that Vox article fails to mention any of that. If you actually believe that being critical of religions spreads religion-phobia, then you should definitely criticize Jo Ro for spreading "bigotry" against Christianity and being Christianophobic, but no one does that because we rightfully believe religions aren't above criticism........ until you inject the word "minority" then all rational thinking is thrown out of the window, for example, Muslims are a "minority" in the west, so Rogan allowing guests to be openly critical of Islam HAS TO be a problem, on other hand, no one is trying to cancel him over his identically hostile behavior against Christianity, not that I want anyone to do that, I am an atheist after all, but I can't help pointing out the hypocrisy.
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