I would like to see them go back to releasing Uncharted every 2 years like they used to. Same with Horizon. If not then at least release new DLC expansion levels every two years. Save the hardware upgrades for the PS6 and get back to focusing more on their AAA games next gen.

$499 with the VR breakout box baked into the console, making the VR SKU itself cheaper. Pricing could vary depending on subsidy. You could have a $399 Pro console, $299 base hybrid, and $199 streaming box.

I think there will be two models at launch, a PS5 and PS5 Pro. GPU will likely follow similar config of PS4 to PS4 Pro.

But there also will be a PS5 Pro+ or PS5K sometime in 2023 with doubled config of PS5Pro at 5nm(?). Perhaps 5K resolutions or 4K 60fps.

I don't care about frame rate for competitive reasons.  I care about it because higher frame rates feel better.  The difference between 30 and 60 is huge.  I recall going from Destiny at 30fps to Halo 5 at 60 and thinking it was cool, but nothing special.  But, when I finished Halo at 60andd went back to Destiny at 30fps, I really realized how awesome that 60fps was.

As far as I'm concerned, 60fps should be the standard for all games next gen, with hopes that Pro or X models will give us even higher. 

With 8k showing up at CES this year, a dynamic checkerboard 8k PS5 upgrade wouldn't be out of the question at some point.

Sony released the first 4K TV in 2012 for what that's worth. https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-releases-first-4k-tv-the-84-inch-xbr-84x900/

I highly highly doubt any console releasing in the next couple years will support 8K, especially considering the 8K TV announced cost $13,000. I don't see any reason to believe that 8K TVs won't cost over $5K for years like every other tv with a new resolution standard has, and it won't have a decent adoption rate until sets can be had for less than $1000, possibly longer as you're really starting to see the effects of diminishing returns. The difference between 8K and 4K will be harder to notice than the difference between 4K and 1080p. It's possible the difference between the two will be incredibly difficult to notice from 6-8 feet away on a television that's 60" or smaller. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's adopted at an even slower rate than 4K was (which as far as I remember, was adopted at a slower rate than expected).

Even then, the processing power to produce an 8K image is as significant leap in performance from 1080p to 4K, which means the technology to render video games at that resolution at an acceptable frame rate, even with some type of dynamic checkerboard technique is still in the realm of thousands of dollars today, if not more. I'd say you're much more likely to see consoles support new video standards that improve picture quality in other ways, such as better HDR etc. If it does support 8K at all, it'll just be for video files.

I don't see how PS4 Pro in 2016 would be all that much different than a PS5 Pro around 2023, give or take. Dynamic checkerboarding is taking whatever they can stick in an affordable box and upscaling it. PS could probably checkerboard PS4 Pro up to 8k right now, it would just look like base PS4 upscaled to 4k, maybe worse, but with the performance of a PS5 Pro, it should be reasonable just like how the PS4 Pro is now with 4k.

Man, 60fps I would agree a lot of PC gamers aim to, I was saying 120fps is a small fraction.

Could be.

No problem man. There are a lot of people like you that prefer 60fps over prettier graphics. But the console market so far have focused more on the graphic due to being easier to market and show as better than the rest. But considering they made 30fps on potato chips, perhaps just being less scrooge with CPU would grant 60fps without having impact on graphics (considerable at least).

I hope Sony learns from the Pro and X, and delivers a full 8K console. Checkerboard 4K and no UHD Blu-Ray drive were/are the most unattractive things about PS4 Pro.

Honestly, I want Sony to offer an 8K capable PS5 at launch. Make it known that it is only an 'option' aimed at the hardcore Gaming and A/V enthusiast crowd. They can sell it for $1,500, and give players a way to expereince Horizon 2, God of War 2, Gran Turismo Sport, and The Last of Us Part II at 8K.

Microsoft already offers Gears and Forza at 8K on and Windows, Sony needs to counter that.

I thought you were talking about the PS5 releasing in 2019 or 2020. 2023 is definitely more possible. My apologies.