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Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

She gets mocked because she apparently used her itty bit of indian heritage to help her get opportunities. Hence, it looks bad on her credibility.

Basically, its kinda like a very white person saying they're black to take an opportunity that might have been skewed to get people of color. If you're a member of political party that essentially panders to people of color (she's a democrat), your opponents are gonna mention it.

As far as her policies go, she's a hack.



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vivster said:
All this heritage nonsense is bullshit anyway. Who your distant ancestors were shouldn't matter one bit for you. I don't care if your great great great grandpa was killed, raped, enslaved or got his land taken away. That shit has nothing to do with you and I won't respect you any more or less for it, let alone pay you reparations or give you special rights. You've done shit and mooching off of what your ancestors did or have suffered for is despicable.

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.



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Eagle367 said:
My parents used to tell me that while our countries politics were shitty, there are countries with better standards where corruption and hypocrisy don't reign supreme and they talked about US. They made it seem like it was this Uber powerful nation that had the entire world in it's grasp and were much farther ahead in tech than any other country and their military was so powerful but everyone was accountable and they made no distinction between president and poor person. Now I realise that they were highly mistaken or they were trolling me cause this country is so damn d'corript, they have am archaic 3 party system where both parties are corrupt, hypocritical and ruled by oligarchs. Their military is the strongest but is also kind of a joke(if you find militaries killing innocent people in foreign lands funny) and they are no longer the leader in tech, They have a horrible healthcare and education system and their infrastructure is just horrible. Also they act like cartoon caricatures of themselves for some reason. Now I can only laugh in disbelief at the stupidity of America and the naiveté of my parents/ or the awesome way they trolled me

I'm sorry the US isn't the utopia you believed? But lets remember it grew from of other corrupt nations.

We have an "archaic" two party system, not 3. Power tends to be corrupt, that's nothing new. This is something many developed nations deal with from time to time and why political shifts happens to some other "archaic" party.

The military is indeed strong and innocent people die. That's war! The innocent always suffer most.

Our healthcare isn't horrible, generally speaking far from it. The real problems is costs and not everybody has a good healthcare plan. These are different arguments.

We spend a fortune on our education system, almost the most in the world. The problem is the parents suck. But solution by the left is more money.

If your parents sold you the US is a utopia, they weren't bright people. Frankly I never argue the US is best or a perfect country, but its certainly a much better place then where most immigrants come from. I don't know anything about your parents but maybe they held the US in high regard because they came from a shit country?



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Friend posted this in facebook. Did she really claim her mom was part cherokee? Or was this interview taken out of context? I don’t really trust these sites ppl post in facebook...

And I’m hearing that she may not have cherokee blood at all. More like latin american blood. A teeny tiny bit of it.



Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:
All this heritage nonsense is bullshit anyway. Who your distant ancestors were shouldn't matter one bit for you. I don't care if your great great great grandpa was killed, raped, enslaved or got his land taken away. That shit has nothing to do with you and I won't respect you any more or less for it, let alone pay you reparations or give you special rights. You've done shit and mooching off of what your ancestors did or have suffered for is despicable.

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.

You mean like how Republicans use their veteran relatives to pander? Don't pretend as if this kind of behavior is just used by one side, you're making it worse.



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RolStoppable said:
thismeintiel said:

So you defend this with whataboutism?  I could have sworn the Left was done with whataboutism.  At least they seemed to have a problem when the Trump supporters used it.

The reason this is worth discussing is that not only are the Dems supposed to be the party of the minority, where this woman lied for decades about her heritage to advance in life, but it also shows the ridiculous double standards Dems have for themselves versus the rest of the world.  I mean, just in the past few months we had the Kavanaugh "guilty before proven innocent" from an accusation of 36 years ago, with absolutely no proof, while at the same time the 2nd in command of the DNC was being accused of assault from just 2 years ago, with the woman claiming to actually have proof.  Of course, they defend their guy, instead of adopting the standard they want for everyone else, just kick them out.  Now, we have the Left calling racism left and right, talking about how bad cultural appropriation is, but are now defending a woman who actually did cultural appropriate.  And not because she thought a Eastern dress looked cool, so she wore it, but to actually get positions as a "person of color."

I am not defending it. I thought my post was as clear of an attack against the USA's way of doing politics as it can come.

The most entertaining thing about American politics is that they have effectively a two-party-system and its supporters keep accusing the other side of hypocrisy and double standards, seemingly oblivious to how omnipresent hypocrisy and double standards are among both parties.

Fucking nailed it. I mean honestly what can any Republican/conservative really say about any Democrat or liberal... look at the complete ass clown we have in office lol. It’s a never ending cycle of bias and nonsense where each side is too busy mud slinging and dirt digging and sabotaging the other side to ever make any actual progress.

Im not a fan of Warren but for all we know her parents told her she had NA ancestry and she took their word for it. Happens all the time.



Goodness, why does this matter? Is her ancestry supposed to make her special or something?



So Trump was wrong on Obama and now he's proven wrong on Warren.

How embarrassing.



                            

I think this was just for Trump's benefit



vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.

You mean like how Republicans use their veteran relatives to pander? Don't pretend as if this kind of behavior is just used by one side, you're making it worse.

Not sure where you're going with that. Republicans aren't leaning on veteran relatives like the democrats lean on racism and sexism, not even close.

If anything, politicians on both sides use their family or own military backgrounds for support. Some even exaggerate their service like Blumenthal (democrat) to win votes.



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