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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Weekly, 4th August 2018, Software

Kerotan said:
Mnementh said:

*ahem*

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237549

You have to listen to your Sony-colleagues on this thread, the games will be bought on Switch because there is nothing else.

I'm talking the big AAA third party sellers like gta, rdr2, cod, Battlefield, battlefront, fifa and the list goes on and on. Ps4 already dominates over xbox usually 2 to 3 to 1 in terms of sales. It would dominate the switch by an awful lot more me thinks. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

And you're wrong about the Switch. While the ratio you gave regarding Xbox and PS4 is mostly true (it is much more in favor of PS4 for japanese games), with Switch the story is much more complicated. Depending on the genre Switch may sell much more  than XB1. Seems the userbase of XB1 and PS4 is more or less similar (but bigger for PS4), while the Switch-userbase is different and more unique.



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Mnementh said:
Kerotan said:

I'm talking the big AAA third party sellers like gta, rdr2, cod, Battlefield, battlefront, fifa and the list goes on and on. Ps4 already dominates over xbox usually 2 to 3 to 1 in terms of sales. It would dominate the switch by an awful lot more me thinks. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

And you're wrong about the Switch. While the ratio you gave regarding Xbox and PS4 is mostly true (it is much more in favor of PS4 for japanese games), with Switch the story is much more complicated. Depending on the genre Switch may sell much more  than XB1. Seems the userbase of XB1 and PS4 is more or less similar (but bigger for PS4), while the Switch-userbase is different and more unique.

That's exactly mypoint most of the big AAA games are not the type of games switch owners buy. Hence if they had all the AAA games they wouldn't be selling like they do on ps4 and you'd still have Nintendo games making up most of the sales. If you think games like Doom are not selling now just wait until the novelty of a Nintendo console getting those type of games Wears off. Sales won't dramatically improve just because the user base did. Just wait and you'll see



Mnementh said:
Mar1217 said:

Let's see when Doom Eternal will  drop.

Wouldn't be surprised if numbers for Switch version where in-between the 2 other versions .

For many multiplats Swich numbers are actually already in between the other two: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=236419

But for Doom and Wolfenstein the Switch turned out to be the lowest selling platform. Seems shooter-fans aren't flocking to the Switch.

Well, both were also late ports, announced after the game was already out on the other platforms. Doom Ethernal is supposed to release on all platforms the sale day, leveling the field for all of them.



Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

It's theoretically true that they didn't have any major game this year, but since the console release Nintendo basically has released all their major franchises besides Pokemon, Smash and AC.

Since most people go for Nintendo for exclusives, I guess Nintendo have done everything they could to get this sales figures, releasing basically everything. That explains why Nintendo's on top 10. It's not like they're not releasing major games and selling like this. They've already used almost all their cards:

Mario Kart

Mario

Mario Tennis

Splatoon

Zelda

Kirby

DK



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


PortisheadBiscuit said:
BoseDK said:

Sadly like other Nintendo consoles I can already see the end of it's lifespan. After Smash and Pokemon are that'll be the end of Nintendo's titles that anyone cares about. There's really nothing left other than to start the cycle again and sequels to titles already on the console aren't going to keep the hardware going for long.

Animal Crossing, Pokemon 2019, Metroid, Fire Emblem, 2D Mario, 2D Zelda all would like a word with you. Switch is here to stay for a while, it may not do Wii numbers but it's not going to just fade away

From your list, only AC and Pokemon are truly system sellers.

Not saying that Nintendo will fail, not at all, but they've already used almost all their charms.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


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0D0 said:
Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

It's theoretically true that they didn't have any major game this year, but since the console release Nintendo basically has released all their major franchises besides Pokemon, Smash and AC.

Since most people go for Nintendo for exclusives, I guess Nintendo have done everything they could to get this sales figures, releasing basically everything. That explains why Nintendo's on top 10. It's not like they're not releasing major games and selling like this. They've already used almost all their cards:

Mario Kart

Mario

Mario Tennis

Splatoon

Zelda

Kirby

DK

You can't list 1-2 million selling games like Mario Tennis & Kirby as major releases then turn around and say they have used almost all their cards.

They have a ton of games that sell those numbers that haven't released yet.



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0D0 said:
Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

It's theoretically true that they didn't have any major game this year, but since the console release Nintendo basically has released all their major franchises besides Pokemon, Smash and AC.

Since most people go for Nintendo for exclusives, I guess Nintendo have done everything they could to get this sales figures, releasing basically everything. That explains why Nintendo's on top 10. It's not like they're not releasing major games and selling like this. They've already used almost all their cards:

Mario Kart

Mario

Mario Tennis

Splatoon

Zelda

Kirby

DK

DK? Wasn't that a port? 



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Jranation said:
0D0 said:

It's theoretically true that they didn't have any major game this year, but since the console release Nintendo basically has released all their major franchises besides Pokemon, Smash and AC.

Since most people go for Nintendo for exclusives, I guess Nintendo have done everything they could to get this sales figures, releasing basically everything. That explains why Nintendo's on top 10. It's not like they're not releasing major games and selling like this. They've already used almost all their cards:

Mario Kart

Mario

Mario Tennis

Splatoon

Zelda

Kirby

DK

DK? Wasn't that a port? 

Yes, a port, why?



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?