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potato_hamster said:
CaptainExplosion said:

You're resorting to personal attacks.

It's a personal attack to point out that your attitude is feeding into the very thing you apparently want to destroy?

Well you could've put it better than "You're part of the problem.".



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CaptainExplosion said:
potato_hamster said:

It's a personal attack to point out that your attitude is feeding into the very thing you apparently want to destroy?

Well you could've put it better than "You're part of the problem.".

No matter how I put it, it doesn't make you less of a part of the problem.



potato_hamster said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Well you could've put it better than "You're part of the problem.".

No matter how I put it, it doesn't make you less of a part of the problem.

Well what do you want me to do?



because at the end of the day, thats what they want, and its all just a marketing ploy. by shoehorning in a female protagonist they can market themselves as "a company for the future" that is supportive of all genders and does not discriminate. that splits the audience into two groups - those who are happy about it and those who arent. those who are happy about it buy the game and make EA's wallet just a bit bigger. as for those who are unhappy, EA can hide behind an invincible wall of "youre just being sexist" and not have to listen to any legitimate criticisms about the game

im all for having a female protagonist. i just want them to be likable, believable, and well written, same with any other character. but this is just a coward move that once again shows how disconnected EA is from the gaming community



CaptainExplosion said:
potato_hamster said:

It's a personal attack to point out that your attitude is feeding into the very thing you apparently want to destroy?

Well you could've put it better than "You're part of the problem.".

You can start by not advocating that people that spout opinions you don't like should be "shut up". It's a pretty dangerous idea.



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CaptainExplosion said:
vivster said:

No, they're not. They're just massively amplified by people who wine about them.

Because we're struggling for a way to shut them up.

Feeding attention to people who crave it doesn't solve anything. Try the opposite.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

Wow you clearly don't get what that was all about



 

CaptainExplosion said:
potato_hamster said:

You're part of the problem.

You're resorting to personal attacks.

You just called people who disagree with you "misogynist fuckboys" and you're falsely accusing a person of making personal attacks. Projecting much?

CaptainExplosion said:
pokoko said:

I'm all for shutting up misogynists if it would shut up the social justice warriors along with them.  

We're gonna need a lot of duct tape.

You should go to wal-mart and pick up several rolls then look into a mirror. You won't have to look hard to find who to start with.



vivster said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Because we're struggling for a way to shut them up.

Feeding attention to people who crave it doesn't solve anything. Try the opposite.

As long as the opposite involves sitting back and watching cute animals do outrageous things.



HintHRO said:
maxleresistant said:

I didn't mind the TLoU 2 kiss.

I think it was provocative art, and not just a lazy way to jump on the LGBT/feminist bandwagon. 

Good art has always been provocative, there was always a political and/or ideological statement in art, and Last of Us really fits into that because the first game already had strong ideological themes. And it was just two women kissing, why do people care so much?

As for the rest of your comment, I won't even acknowledge it by answering it. But I guess now I see why you care that much about that kiss ...

I don't mind two girls kissing. I even watched lesbian porn last night and that involves a LOT more than kissing

It's about the message behind it: ''Look how tolerant we are towards LGTB's. Now praise us.'' Yes, we get that now. Good for you. Unfortunately every game developer and movie director wants validation for it. It will be a matter of time before we play as a transgender. Maybe even a character who is a woman and male at the same time! That would be tolerant as hell. 

Your arguments are ridiculous, first of all, it is completely stupid to refuse something, because you are imagining that it could lead to something else.

You know what, don't buy the game with the transgender,  or whatever gender/non-gender will be in fashion at the time, it will be another discussion. 

And my god the "I watch lesbian porn" so I'm not homophobic excuse, are you for real? Are you joking here? You do understand that, you, picking and chosing where lesbians can or cannot be, is homophobic ? "they can do porn all they want, but they better not be in my video games" There is something seriously wrong with you buddy.

 

And if I'm being honest I'm really not pro anything, I think the whole gender/transgender thing is getting way out of hand. But I can see the difference between someone calling themselve gender fluid, someone making a bad movie and putting a feminist sticker on it like ghostbuster and Ocean's 8, and just a studio trying to make an interesting character that resonate with our times. Lesbian characters is not something new at all, there is nothing offensive about it and I don't see any problem with Ellie in TLOU 2.

What you see as some kind of SJW crusade, I see it as just people trying to break video game conventions.