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i dont know, never really cared what gender the character is.

i like having female characters as a male gamer.

i think bfv issue is no one wants to play ww2 games right now. and the dev said some stupid things as well. plus the EA factor doesnt help.

with a new tomb raider, gears, and tlou2 having female characters, never really gave it much though other than, wanting to play them, well most of them, some just dont interest me as a game i would enjoy due to gameplay.

looks like the usual rabble rousers are at it reading some of the above posts. people need to chill out ffs. just dont buy the game if it means that much to you. your not going to change anyones mind, just make a bunch of posts with garbage slinging.

 

edit: cant we all just get along?



 

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Because they're clearly not woke enough. Changing demographics in historical events is not offensive and would most certainly never be done maliciously.

Hopefully DICE will also include a mission where we can liberate Christians and Muslims from concentration camps.



If you're referring to the Battlefield V controversy, it's an issue of historical accuracy rather than an issue with women. Only a handful of neckbeard types complain about female playable characters in games under normal circumstances, recent games like Horizon: Zero Dawn and ReCore have female main characters, and the upcoming Shadow of the Tomb Raider from Eidos and Control from Remedy have female main characters, and barely anybody complained about any of those, most welcome it. I myself prefer a female playable character as long as it fits the setting of the game. Battlefield V is a unique case because it is a WW2 game, by having a woman on the game's cover, multiple mini-campaigns with playable female characters, and the option to have female playable characters in multiplayer regardless of faction, EA/DICE is basically insinuating that a ton of women not only served in WW2, but fought in combat in WW2. That is simply not true, the number of women that served is significantly lower than men, and the number of women who fought in combat is significantly lower still. What's worse, they exacerbated the situation by telling consumers that they were uneducated, claiming that they stood on the right side of history by featuring so many female characters. Simple fact of the matter is, several major players in WW2 didn't allow women to serve in combat roles, and yet Battlefield V depicts women from some of those countries in combat. They are breaking historical accuracy and then telling consumers that they aren't.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 23 August 2018

Signalstar said:
I am actually shocked to discover the OP is FattyDingDong. No offense but this is one of the most reasonable and well thought out threads I have seen from you. I actually find myself agreeing with you.

Yes, people are angry. If your series does not start out with a female protagonist you will be given hell if you change to one apparently. See some of the reaction to The Last of Us Part II or Gears V.

Usually people who say "agenda this" or "agenda that" are convinced popular culture is out to get them and make them feel uncomfortable.

In fairness, developers are also given hell if their series starts out with a male protagonist and doesn't change to at least the option to play as a female protagonist in future games. See: Pretty much every game announced with a male protagonist in the last five years.

Both sides are making the same dumb arguments from different perspectives.



Signalstar said:
I am actually shocked to discover the OP is FattyDingDong. No offense but this is one of the most reasonable and well thought out threads I have seen from you. I actually find myself agreeing with you.

Yes, people are angry. If your series does not start out with a female protagonist you will be given hell if you change to one apparently. See some of the reaction to The Last of Us Part II or Gears V.

Usually people who say "agenda this" or "agenda that" are convinced popular culture is out to get them and make them feel uncomfortable.

I am very passionate and concerned about this issue so i almost felt obligated to make this thread. What is scary to me is that most people on here seem to disagree with us and they fit that description very well they are truly convinced that the "liberal media" is trying to ruin their way of life. 



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"Why do male gamers whine about female characters in gaming? especially about Battlefield V?"

STOP right there. Are you implying that those who are against Battlefield's V choices are now against all Female characters? Are you trying to lowkey label all of us as sexists by spreading misinformation? You're trying to paint the picture as "we whine when we see any female character" but that  far from reality. Reality is that most of don't give a shit when there's a female character in the game. Infact, my most anticipated game right now is Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and if given the choice to do so I usually choose the female over male. 

First when I saw the BFV trailer, with the woman in the front line british forces having a prosthetic arm and wielding a cricket bat, it looked very questionable, but I still ended up giving it a pass. Though when EA called anybody in opposition "uneducated" and "sexists", that was the straw that broke the camel's back. That's when it became obvious that EA merely made the decision to pander to sjw's. 

You saying that we whine more than SJW's? Think again:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-twitter-account-makes-transphobic-joke-read-op.63305/



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FattyDingDong said:
Signalstar said:
I am actually shocked to discover the OP is FattyDingDong. No offense but this is one of the most reasonable and well thought out threads I have seen from you. I actually find myself agreeing with you.

Yes, people are angry. If your series does not start out with a female protagonist you will be given hell if you change to one apparently. See some of the reaction to The Last of Us Part II or Gears V.

Usually people who say "agenda this" or "agenda that" are convinced popular culture is out to get them and make them feel uncomfortable.

I am very passionate and concerned about this issue so i almost felt obligated to make this thread. What is scary to me is that most people on here seem to disagree with us and they fit that description very well they are truly convinced that the "liberal media" is trying to ruin their way of life. 

Why exactly are you ignoring all the people that brought up multiple games with a female lead that had no backlash?

The backlash for Battlefield isn't because people don't like females in games, it's because it simply does not fit with this particular game.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

The feminist push in games like this feels forced. It like they just added a female lead in there just for the sake of it.

Apart from that the game looks dull as hell.



Doesnt get much more inflammatory then that.

"Why does (large group of ppl) complain about (stupid issue)? Wow, must be mentally fragile and dumb."

Ok. Moving on then~



Uh, immersion? Battlefield isn't the kind of game I expect female soldiers in situations where there were none or almost none. I don't mind the female soldiers if they're used in situations where they were actually used, but as far as I know, they had no place in most battles. I'll gladly take a female-only WWII if it makes sense in some game, but I don't feel like it makes any sense at all in a Battlefield game. And just for the record, I'm the guy whose girlfriend is constantly begging him to play as a male character because he plays as a female character so often.

I'm all for equality but I don't think this is the way.