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Eh, kinda unrelated, but am I the only one who thinks Overwatch on Switch is a bit overdue at this point?

A Switch port would still sell decently regardless, but idk, I feel like the demand for it has died down within the past year since the Switch came put, I know for a fact I wanted Overwatch on Switch badly at one point, but now I don’t really care.

I’m just one guy though, so maybe it’s just me.



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Ultrashroomz said:
Eh, kinda unrelated, but am I the only one who thinks Overwatch on Switch is a bit overdue at this point?

A Switch port would still sell decently regardless, but idk, I feel like the demand for it has died down within the past year since the Switch came put, I know for a fact I wanted Overwatch on Switch badly at one point, but now I don’t really care.

I’m just one guy though, so maybe it’s just me.

Many games are overdue for the Switch. GTA V also comes to mind.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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areason said:
Wyrdness said:

You play ladder yet don't know the cost of a shield battery and try to claim I don't know what I'm on about? Yeah sure mate, SB for a start cost 100 minerals the same as a pylon Has never expands full stop he can't function in a standard game want an example of what I highlight go watch Parting's stream on ladder he does exactly as I'm saying especially in PvZ. Your comments on Ravager rush is hilariously wrong go say that on Bnet I dare to go on there a claim Ravager rush is not a cheese you'll be blown out hard, the build even revolves around a 12 pool the same 12 pool you earlier said was a cheese so nice way to contradict yourself and the attack hits before any units are ready to deal with it especially if you expanded, Maynarde even casted a game of it yesterday on stream.

It's clear you have little clue on the ladder so don't reply to me with any more nonsense.

I don't play P, both ways a pylon and a couple of batteries in their natural or outside of it and you're going to have the cost of a nexus and more. And that's without looking at an early stargate or robo which means earlier gases and less minerals, and without looking at added production which again costs minerals. You don't know what a cheese is, a 4-5 minute push with roach/ravager is not a cheese, but instead an early push. A cheese would be anything that involves a proxy, or something like DT blink. It's like saying that a 2-1-1 terran 4 minute push is a cheese. I'm not contradicting yourself you just don't know what you're on about, a roach rush has a later timing then a 12 pool rush. Roach/ravager does not hit before any of your units are ready, unless you are going for a greedy build.

If you're bad and you die to cheese every time you need to learn how to scout, and how to react, instead of being mad and raging at the balance of the game. 

What parting does on ladder is irrelevant, you don't see protos players cheesing every game vs Zerg or even doing it often. The most common thing to do right now is an archon drop for harass. Has is the best cheeser in the professional scene and he's had 1 good run in all his WCS events in the past 4 years. 

Ravager rushes hit at the 3 minute mark well done you just proved my entire point on your views on the ladder congratulations.

I don't play Protoss either yet know the values and costs of each unit you know why? Because it's required in understanding and debating balance that's no excuse what so ever, let me highlight how all over the shop your post here is you say a 4-5 minute push or attack is not cheese then go on to say DT blink is cheese despite that hitting at the 4 minute mark and then compare Ravager rushes to 2-1-1 pushes which hit at the 6-7 minute mark again do not reply to me with this non sense as you've proven you're more of a viewer of SC2 than someone who plays it often. Cheese is a fast all in attack simple as that.

You say scout guess what Protoss can hide tech anywhere on the map and tech like Twilight council can have 4 different types of attack when scouted and each require different responses, you can't scout what attack is coming you have to guess and the Protoss can deviate from the attack due to the added flexibility the econ gives. Let me get this straight you bring up Has but what Parting a far superior player does is irrelevant? Nice side stepping the argument you have no response for. I'll tell you again don't respond why this nonsense.

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SC2 on Switch just doesn't make sense. Touch controls only work while Switch is undocked, so that's out of the question. They could utilise motion controls to simulate mouse, but there's nearly not enough buttons for macros/quick control group selection. It'd be a nightmare to control large amount of units. They would have to change that game A LOT and still it wouldn't feel like Starcraft anyway. Switch is more suited for turn based strategy games than RTS. 



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Wyrdness said:
areason said:

I don't play P, both ways a pylon and a couple of batteries in their natural or outside of it and you're going to have the cost of a nexus and more. And that's without looking at an early stargate or robo which means earlier gases and less minerals, and without looking at added production which again costs minerals. You don't know what a cheese is, a 4-5 minute push with roach/ravager is not a cheese, but instead an early push. A cheese would be anything that involves a proxy, or something like DT blink. It's like saying that a 2-1-1 terran 4 minute push is a cheese. I'm not contradicting yourself you just don't know what you're on about, a roach rush has a later timing then a 12 pool rush. Roach/ravager does not hit before any of your units are ready, unless you are going for a greedy build.

If you're bad and you die to cheese every time you need to learn how to scout, and how to react, instead of being mad and raging at the balance of the game. 

What parting does on ladder is irrelevant, you don't see protos players cheesing every game vs Zerg or even doing it often. The most common thing to do right now is an archon drop for harass. Has is the best cheeser in the professional scene and he's had 1 good run in all his WCS events in the past 4 years. 

Ravager rushes hit at the 3 minute mark well done you just proved my entire point on your views on the ladder congratulations.

I don't play Protoss either yet know the values and costs of each unit you know why? Because it's required in understanding and debating balance that's no excuse what so ever, let me highlight how all over the shop your post here is you say a 4-5 minute push or attack is not cheese then go on to say DT blink is cheese despite that hitting at the 4 minute mark and then compare Ravager rushes to 2-1-1 pushes which hit at the 6-7 minute mark again do not reply to me with this non sense as you've proven you're more of a viewer of SC2 than someone who plays it often. Cheese is a fast all in attack simple as that.

You say scout guess what Protoss can hide tech anywhere on the map and tech like Twilight council can have 4 different types of attack when scouted and each require different responses, you can't scout what attack is coming you have to guess and the Protoss can deviate from the attack due to the added flexibility the econ gives. Let me get this straight you bring up Has but what Parting a far superior player does is irrelevant? Nice side stepping the argument you have no response for. I'll tell you again don't respond why this nonsense.

Mate if you 12 pool and roach rush your first roaches will come around 2:30-2 :45. To walk across the map and morph some ravagers you would get a timing of around 3:30. And that is only with your first couple of units. 

A 2-1-1 1base all in hits around 4 minutes with 20 supply. 

If you're being cheesed, then the tech is near your base. So you don't have to search all of the map for it, instead you just search a couple of key spots. Meanwhile you should stop drone production, through down a roach warren, get a spine maybe and get an extra queen. And early on you're not going to have options other then a gateway/robo/stargate units.Spines and lings are good against 2/3 of that. Protos isn't going to deviate from a cheese, they're not going to build a proxy stargate and not use it at all. And if they cancel it after you get out of vision and maybe through down a robo, that is time lost which delays their push. 

Parting is a retired ex best player in the world who smurfs, it is irrelevant what he does. If protos could cheese and expand and win every game like you said that would be happening at the pro scene, but it doesn't. Even SOS who is known for cheesing a lot hasn't been doing well. 



areason said:
Wyrdness said:

Ravager rushes hit at the 3 minute mark well done you just proved my entire point on your views on the ladder congratulations.

I don't play Protoss either yet know the values and costs of each unit you know why? Because it's required in understanding and debating balance that's no excuse what so ever, let me highlight how all over the shop your post here is you say a 4-5 minute push or attack is not cheese then go on to say DT blink is cheese despite that hitting at the 4 minute mark and then compare Ravager rushes to 2-1-1 pushes which hit at the 6-7 minute mark again do not reply to me with this non sense as you've proven you're more of a viewer of SC2 than someone who plays it often. Cheese is a fast all in attack simple as that.

You say scout guess what Protoss can hide tech anywhere on the map and tech like Twilight council can have 4 different types of attack when scouted and each require different responses, you can't scout what attack is coming you have to guess and the Protoss can deviate from the attack due to the added flexibility the econ gives. Let me get this straight you bring up Has but what Parting a far superior player does is irrelevant? Nice side stepping the argument you have no response for. I'll tell you again don't respond why this nonsense.

Mate if you 12 pool and roach rush your first roaches will come around 2:30-2 :45. To walk across the map and morph some ravagers you would get a timing of around 3:30. And that is only with your first couple of units. 

A 2-1-1 1base all in hits around 4 minutes with 20 supply. 

If you're being cheesed, then the tech is near your base. So you don't have to search all of the map for it, instead you just search a couple of key spots. Meanwhile you should stop drone production, through down a roach warren, get a spine maybe and get an extra queen. And early on you're not going to have options other then a gateway/robo/stargate units.Spines and lings are good against 2/3 of that. Protos isn't going to deviate from a cheese, they're not going to build a proxy stargate and not use it at all. And if they cancel it after you get out of vision and maybe through down a robo, that is time lost which delays their push. 

Parting is a retired ex best player in the world who smurfs, it is irrelevant what he does. If protos could cheese and expand and win every game like you said that would be happening at the pro scene, but it doesn't. Even SOS who is known for cheesing a lot hasn't been doing well. 

I'll prove you wrong in one easy step here, from streamer Pig himself with a video analysing the build from games of various pros doing the build notice how by 2:20 mark 2 Ravagers are already on the field heading for the opponent's base and in the video especially between the 10 minute mark of the video he goes over Soo vs TY and guess what Ravagers are hitting at 3 minutes (2:50 to be exact) proving your whole argument here wrong this is something you can't deny in anyway and mind you this is the 14 pool variant so the 12 pool variant hits even faster.

Doing cheeses like DTs doesn't require the tech to be near your base it can be at the corner of the map because gateway units are warped in at pylons, you can search key areas and not see anything but see a Council at your opponents base and because the are 3 other possible attacks that can come off that tech you're left guessing what the build is, this part of your post further highlights you don't ladder often as Immortal zealot destroys spines and lings and why are you going to build those if your opponent goes Stargate when they can't hit air either. To top it off adepts can be in two places at once you throw down spines and they simply phase past them and lings get ripped apart by adepts especially with the glaive upgrade on the council.

Parting is not retired he currently plays in GSL and played in both this and last season, weren't you the one touting it as the best league? Under your own argument this puts him above Has, SOS is also active in GSL as well and is in Group D of the RO16 he even topped his group in the previous round. As for 2-1-1 again from Pig himself, note how the Terran leaves their base at 4:51 they'll arrive at their opponents base at the 5:40 - 6 minute mark not the 4:00 mark as you claimed. Nothing more to say here.

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Overwatch on the Switch would be fantastic, I think I'd rebuy it just for the portability. Though my internet on my device has been somewhat sketchy if if not in close proximity to our router, so that would be something I'd have to consider..

But yeah Overwatch is probably my most played game of the generation despite my being a Nintendo fan first and foremost. I always found it odd that such a Nintendo-esque game is nowhere to be found on a Nintendo console, especially one as popular as Overwatch.



 

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Wyrdness said:
areason said:

Mate if you 12 pool and roach rush your first roaches will come around 2:30-2 :45. To walk across the map and morph some ravagers you would get a timing of around 3:30. And that is only with your first couple of units. 

A 2-1-1 1base all in hits around 4 minutes with 20 supply. 

If you're being cheesed, then the tech is near your base. So you don't have to search all of the map for it, instead you just search a couple of key spots. Meanwhile you should stop drone production, through down a roach warren, get a spine maybe and get an extra queen. And early on you're not going to have options other then a gateway/robo/stargate units.Spines and lings are good against 2/3 of that. Protos isn't going to deviate from a cheese, they're not going to build a proxy stargate and not use it at all. And if they cancel it after you get out of vision and maybe through down a robo, that is time lost which delays their push. 

Parting is a retired ex best player in the world who smurfs, it is irrelevant what he does. If protos could cheese and expand and win every game like you said that would be happening at the pro scene, but it doesn't. Even SOS who is known for cheesing a lot hasn't been doing well. 

I'll prove you wrong in one easy step here, from streamer Pig himself with a video analysing the build from games of various pros doing the build notice how by 2:20 mark 2 Ravagers are already on the field heading for the opponent's base and in the video especially between the 10 minute mark of the video he goes over Soo vs TY and guess what Ravagers are hitting at 3 minutes (2:50 to be exact) proving your whole argument here wrong this is something you can't deny in anyway and mind you this is the 14 pool variant so the 12 pool variant hits even faster.

Doing cheeses like DTs doesn't require the tech to be near your base it can be at the corner of the map because gateway units are warped in at pylons, you can search key areas and not see anything but see a Council at your opponents base and because the are 3 other possible attacks that can come off that tech you're left guessing what the build is, this part of your post further highlights you don't ladder often as Immortal zealot destroys spines and lings and why are you going to build those if your opponent goes Stargate when they can't hit air either. To top it off adepts can be in two places at once you throw down spines and they simply phase past them and lings get ripped apart by adepts especially with the glaive upgrade on the council.

Parting is not retired he currently plays in GSL and played in both this and last season, weren't you the one touting it as the best league? Under your own argument this puts him above Has, SOS is also active in GSL as well and is in Group D of the RO16 he even topped his group in the previous round. As for 2-1-1 again from Pig himself, note how the Terran leaves their base at 4:51 they'll arrive at their opponents base at the 5:40 - 6 minute mark not the 4:00 mark as you claimed.

Mate that is a build without a queen and without a 2nd hatch, and did you even watch the game. Major didn't bother scouting, if you scout with a drone and see that their is no hatch then you're against a 1 base zerg with no queen and you win. 

Mate Parting is retired, he had military service, went away for 2-3 years, he did partake lately in season 3 of gsl but he couldn't get past the round of 32. He's in the bottom 7 of wcs points in korea(their's about 35 koreans) and he doesn't participate in international tournaments.

Even if you don't find a dark shrine, Terran has scans, Zerg has to protect spore crawlers (both ways you're going to have a spore either way to protect against stargate openeings), and Protos should have a robo or stargate by then so all you need to do is force field the ramp till a oracle/observer comes out. Mate lings are good against immortals, and spines are good against gateway units, all you are doing is picking and choosing and acting silly. 

If you're opponent goes for a early stargate you have queens and spores, it isn't a proxy often, but a early sg is something that happens very often and it never does more then force a few spores and kill a few drones. 

How is adept harassing a problem, it isn't, queens and lings can still take care of them, and lol you're not going to have problems chasing adept shades on creep. You're making it sound like Protos is destroying Zerg at the moment which isn't true if you're paying attention to the pro scene. 

Mate Has more prize money wins in the last month then Partin has in the last 2 years. And the point was that an ex pro player tearing up the ladder on a smurf with cheese doesn't mean anything. 

Did you read what i said? The 2-1-1 video isn't a once base push, it's a stim harass timing against Z. 

You should stop watching cheese start videos and instead play the game. Their isn't a strategy in the game that is perfect and that will every time.