| areason said: Mate that is a build without a queen and without a 2nd hatch, and did you even watch the game. Major didn't bother scouting, if you scout with a drone and see that their is no hatch then you're against a 1 base zerg with no queen and you win. Mate Parting is retired, he had military service, went away for 2-3 years, he did partake lately in season 3 of gsl but he couldn't get past the round of 32. He's in the bottom 7 of wcs points in korea(their's about 35 koreans) and he doesn't participate in international tournaments. Even if you don't find a dark shrine, Terran has scans, Zerg has to protect spore crawlers (both ways you're going to have a spore either way to protect against stargate openeings), and Protos should have a robo or stargate by then so all you need to do is force field the ramp till a oracle/observer comes out. Mate lings are good against immortals, and spines are good against gateway units, all you are doing is picking and choosing and acting silly. If you're opponent goes for a early stargate you have queens and spores, it isn't a proxy often, but a early sg is something that happens very often and it never does more then force a few spores and kill a few drones. How is adept harassing a problem, it isn't, queens and lings can still take care of them, and lol you're not going to have problems chasing adept shades on creep. You're making it sound like Protos is destroying Zerg at the moment which isn't true if you're paying attention to the pro scene. Mate Has more prize money wins in the last month then Partin has in the last 2 years. And the point was that an ex pro player tearing up the ladder on a smurf with cheese doesn't mean anything. Did you read what i said? The 2-1-1 video isn't a once base push, it's a stim harass timing against Z. You should stop watching cheese start videos and instead play the game. Their isn't a strategy in the game that is perfect and that will every time. |
It's without a Queen and second hatch so? The video showed the build is very much viable even in high level play and Soo even used early lings to throw off scouting you've been proven wrong here with video evidence accept it this can't be argued, most people don't scout early against Zerg because they don't expect anything other than a expand otherwise the Zerg is all in, people often wait for the reaper to do that. Mate Parting is in the GSL so no he's not retired anymore again and has been active this year, all Koreans have military service Bomber just finished his as did MMA it's nothing new for them to do that then return, many Korean pros don't take part in international tournaments.
If you're a Terran with bad macro then yeah you'll have scans saved early on but then your economy will be behind from not having mules this is another example of you not grasping the game's fundamentals, throwing down spores and crawlers sacrifices drones that is indirect economic damage as drones need to be rebuilt. You clearly have no clue on the ladder do you Immortal Zealot is the common comp because charged got buffed and was made cheaper the result is Protoss players get a tonne of Zealots with few other units like Immortals which itself was changed in how it works, the Immortal adds dps while the Zealots kill all the lings while tanking what happens is your army gets killed while more Zealots warp in and they bust through the spines with support of the Immortal's fire power this is made worse by the introduction of the SB, seriously what race do you play and what league for a start as a lot of what you're saying makes little sense to what goes on in the ladder and competitively.
We're talking about all ins not little two adept harassment, adepts with glaives beat lings hard and they can phase pass static defence if someone does a glaive adept all in and all you have as units are lings you're dead because they skin the lings then kill all your workers. Considering Parting only came back this year from the military and can only compete in GSL due to region locking and GSL's infrequence compare to other tournaments he would have made more but then under that logic Serral has made more money than Maru in the past 5 months but earlier you were saying those tournaments don't matter compared to GSL again another contradictory statement.
A one base push is the fastest push you can do and it couldn't be done in the 4 minutes you claimed so a two based push stands no chance of hitting that timing either sorry the proof is right here mate these are concrete factors you can never deny as it's a set thing in reality, I already play the game hence how I knew you were talking complete bullocks with your claims and was backed up by actual in game footage from pros and streamers you should take your own advice and actually play the game.
