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Wyrdness said:
areason said:

Mate if you 12 pool and roach rush your first roaches will come around 2:30-2 :45. To walk across the map and morph some ravagers you would get a timing of around 3:30. And that is only with your first couple of units. 

A 2-1-1 1base all in hits around 4 minutes with 20 supply. 

If you're being cheesed, then the tech is near your base. So you don't have to search all of the map for it, instead you just search a couple of key spots. Meanwhile you should stop drone production, through down a roach warren, get a spine maybe and get an extra queen. And early on you're not going to have options other then a gateway/robo/stargate units.Spines and lings are good against 2/3 of that. Protos isn't going to deviate from a cheese, they're not going to build a proxy stargate and not use it at all. And if they cancel it after you get out of vision and maybe through down a robo, that is time lost which delays their push. 

Parting is a retired ex best player in the world who smurfs, it is irrelevant what he does. If protos could cheese and expand and win every game like you said that would be happening at the pro scene, but it doesn't. Even SOS who is known for cheesing a lot hasn't been doing well. 

I'll prove you wrong in one easy step here, from streamer Pig himself with a video analysing the build from games of various pros doing the build notice how by 2:20 mark 2 Ravagers are already on the field heading for the opponent's base and in the video especially between the 10 minute mark of the video he goes over Soo vs TY and guess what Ravagers are hitting at 3 minutes (2:50 to be exact) proving your whole argument here wrong this is something you can't deny in anyway and mind you this is the 14 pool variant so the 12 pool variant hits even faster.

Doing cheeses like DTs doesn't require the tech to be near your base it can be at the corner of the map because gateway units are warped in at pylons, you can search key areas and not see anything but see a Council at your opponents base and because the are 3 other possible attacks that can come off that tech you're left guessing what the build is, this part of your post further highlights you don't ladder often as Immortal zealot destroys spines and lings and why are you going to build those if your opponent goes Stargate when they can't hit air either. To top it off adepts can be in two places at once you throw down spines and they simply phase past them and lings get ripped apart by adepts especially with the glaive upgrade on the council.

Parting is not retired he currently plays in GSL and played in both this and last season, weren't you the one touting it as the best league? Under your own argument this puts him above Has, SOS is also active in GSL as well and is in Group D of the RO16 he even topped his group in the previous round. As for 2-1-1 again from Pig himself, note how the Terran leaves their base at 4:51 they'll arrive at their opponents base at the 5:40 - 6 minute mark not the 4:00 mark as you claimed.

Mate that is a build without a queen and without a 2nd hatch, and did you even watch the game. Major didn't bother scouting, if you scout with a drone and see that their is no hatch then you're against a 1 base zerg with no queen and you win. 

Mate Parting is retired, he had military service, went away for 2-3 years, he did partake lately in season 3 of gsl but he couldn't get past the round of 32. He's in the bottom 7 of wcs points in korea(their's about 35 koreans) and he doesn't participate in international tournaments.

Even if you don't find a dark shrine, Terran has scans, Zerg has to protect spore crawlers (both ways you're going to have a spore either way to protect against stargate openeings), and Protos should have a robo or stargate by then so all you need to do is force field the ramp till a oracle/observer comes out. Mate lings are good against immortals, and spines are good against gateway units, all you are doing is picking and choosing and acting silly. 

If you're opponent goes for a early stargate you have queens and spores, it isn't a proxy often, but a early sg is something that happens very often and it never does more then force a few spores and kill a few drones. 

How is adept harassing a problem, it isn't, queens and lings can still take care of them, and lol you're not going to have problems chasing adept shades on creep. You're making it sound like Protos is destroying Zerg at the moment which isn't true if you're paying attention to the pro scene. 

Mate Has more prize money wins in the last month then Partin has in the last 2 years. And the point was that an ex pro player tearing up the ladder on a smurf with cheese doesn't mean anything. 

Did you read what i said? The 2-1-1 video isn't a once base push, it's a stim harass timing against Z. 

You should stop watching cheese start videos and instead play the game. Their isn't a strategy in the game that is perfect and that will every time.