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SpokenTruth said:
Starcraft 64 is the ONLY StarCraft game to release on a console. It's quite the stretch to expect SCII on any console period.

I never knew starcraft 64 was that special. I kinda regret not buying it when I had the chance.



areason said:
Wyrdness said:

Lol want to bet mate because the are a whole number of videos and streamers who have demonstrated them an example of one is linked below the's another which someused while streaming that shows all the information next to the mini map even from what production they're building to units and on the map itself you can see the units waypoints, these are now rampant on the ladder as f2p means if someone is banned they just make a new free account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBCpmRxJQ0I&t=2s

 

Balance is far from fine the are so many issues across all match ups that if you want to take it there I can detail what is wrong in each of them this is one of the worse periods for SC2, the best was during the HOTS era.

That is 1 video, as someone who watches streams and plays daily it isn't any worse then it's been in WOL and in HOS. 

HOTS era had the broken infestor/Broodlord builds. The scene atm is better, even Terran has had recent buffs. Only argument you can have is that Terran has been at a disadvantage since HOS, but the current best player in the world plays Terran.

That's one video of many, other streamers like Pig, Vibe, Ruff, Protech have ran into such individuals on stream while some players have live streamed to hacks to bring it to Blizzard's attention unfortunately they can't ban these cheating clowns from the ladder because they stupidly made the game's multiplayer f2p.

Broodlord Infestor wasn't a problem in HOTS in fact the Infestor was a dead unit in HOTS you're thinking of WOL which is almost a decade ago, the current best player in the world plays Zerg in Serral as he's had the strongest record so far but either way the problems aren't just with one race it's with all of them and the 12 worker start. The game is in a terrible state and is frustrating for people on the ladder to play.



Wyrdness said:
areason said:

That is 1 video, as someone who watches streams and plays daily it isn't any worse then it's been in WOL and in HOS. 

HOTS era had the broken infestor/Broodlord builds. The scene atm is better, even Terran has had recent buffs. Only argument you can have is that Terran has been at a disadvantage since HOS, but the current best player in the world plays Terran.

That's one video of many, other streamers like Pig, Vibe, Ruff, Protech have ran into such individuals on stream while some players have live streamed to hacks to bring it to Blizzard's attention unfortunately they can't ban these cheating clowns from the ladder because they stupidly made the game's multiplayer f2p.

Broodlord Infestor wasn't a problem in HOTS in fact the Infestor was a dead unit in HOTS you're thinking of WOL which is almost a decade ago, the current best player in the world plays Zerg in Serral as he's had the strongest record so far but either way the problems aren't just with one race it's with all of them and the 12 worker start. The game is in a terrible state and is frustrating for people on the ladder to play.

The current best player is Maru not Serral, he won WESG and the two GSL's so far. The races don't have problems, and the 12 worker start simplified openings which helps balance. 



areason said:
Wyrdness said:

That's one video of many, other streamers like Pig, Vibe, Ruff, Protech have ran into such individuals on stream while some players have live streamed to hacks to bring it to Blizzard's attention unfortunately they can't ban these cheating clowns from the ladder because they stupidly made the game's multiplayer f2p.

Broodlord Infestor wasn't a problem in HOTS in fact the Infestor was a dead unit in HOTS you're thinking of WOL which is almost a decade ago, the current best player in the world plays Zerg in Serral as he's had the strongest record so far but either way the problems aren't just with one race it's with all of them and the 12 worker start. The game is in a terrible state and is frustrating for people on the ladder to play.

The current best player is Maru not Serral, he won WESG and the two GSL's so far. The races don't have problems, and the 12 worker start simplified openings which helps balance. 

Serral beat all the top Korean players in his wins including Innovation and Stats, Maru in the same recent tournament got destroyed by someone Serral swatted.

No 12 worker star broke the game it's is the main cause of the erratic early game the game has and I can highlight why, 12 workers gives players near full mineral saturation the result is builds that were never intended to be viable now exist and example is how Protoss can expand as fast as Zerg now while being able to pressure your natural with an array of cheeses and pushes. This was not possible before because the 6 worker start meant taking a gas impacted expanding and a players economy this what everyone on BNet, TL and Reddit SC are now realising and bringing up because you can't balance a game where the flawed econ undermines its fundamentals.



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the only reason you would want starcraft 2 on a Nintendo system (especially in PAL regions) is so you can flip it for 5x the value later lol



 

 

Wyrdness said:
areason said:

The current best player is Maru not Serral, he won WESG and the two GSL's so far. The races don't have problems, and the 12 worker start simplified openings which helps balance. 

Serral beat all the top Korean players in his wins including Innovation and Stats, Maru in the same recent tournament got destroyed by someone Serral swatted.

No 12 worker star broke the game it's is the main cause of the erratic early game the game has and I can highlight why, 12 workers gives players near full mineral saturation the result is builds that were never intended to be viable now exist and example is how Protoss can expand as fast as Zerg now while being able to pressure your natural with an array of cheeses and pushes. This was not possible before because the 6 worker start meant taking a gas impacted expanding and a players economy this what everyone on BNet, TL and Reddit SC are now realising and bringing up because you can't balance a game where the flawed econ undermines its fundamentals.

GSL vs the World is more like fun show matches then an actual tournament, the players are literary voted into the tournament. And Serral didn't swatt Stats, the series was close. Not taking anything away from his win, but Maru has been dominating the most competitive league in the world.

If protos fast expands it can't cheese, it can't even pressure Zerg. Protos can only pressure Zerg after it gets 3 adepts, and they'l be coming from 1 gate so it will take a while. Mate the 12 worker strat really hurts cheese, before you could 6 pool and your opponent wouldn't have even started a gateway or a barracks, now if you 12 pool and use your larva on lings right away, you're gonna reach their base and see a completed rax. 

If you first or 2nd expand you're not going to push before the 6-8 minute mark unless you're zerg, and your initial harass won't come before 4 minutes. You can say that shield batteries really created a lot of cheeses for Protos, but they're also costly. 



Wyrdness said:
areason said:

The current best player is Maru not Serral, he won WESG and the two GSL's so far. The races don't have problems, and the 12 worker start simplified openings which helps balance. 

Serral beat all the top Korean players in his wins including Innovation and Stats, Maru in the same recent tournament got destroyed by someone Serral swatted.

No 12 worker star broke the game it's is the main cause of the erratic early game the game has and I can highlight why, 12 workers gives players near full mineral saturation the result is builds that were never intended to be viable now exist and example is how Protoss can expand as fast as Zerg now while being able to pressure your natural with an array of cheeses and pushes. This was not possible before because the 6 worker start meant taking a gas impacted expanding and a players economy this what everyone on BNet, TL and Reddit SC are now realising and bringing up because you can't balance a game where the flawed econ undermines its fundamentals.

And where do people bring this up? I see no threads of this anywhere.
You are very angry about SC2 for some reason.

While Serral has won GSL vs the World it doesn't automatically give him the title of best player in the world. Maru didn't get destroyed by Stats and Stats didn't get swatted by Serrel. Were you even watching the games? The finals was damn close.

In regards to the 12 worker start I haven't seen anyone complain about it recently. All complaints were when it was implemented which was almost 3 years ago.
And the game is now in the best state it has ever been. Games rarely are a build order wins. The matches are dynamic and fluid with lots of oppurtunities to outplay your opponent.
Not the goddamn snorefest that was HotS or the shitty one dimensional matchups of WoL. And the community as a whole agrees that its better then ever.

Even the hacker situation is nowadays way better then before LotV. Back than when HotS was out there were a lot of free hacks and many hackers on the ladders. Nowadays you have to play a insane amount of games to actually meet one. The TL thread of suspected hackers is mostly dead nowadays. And Blizzard makes hacks unusable on a regular basis so the only available ones you have to pay quite a sum of money for.

I would like to know where you get your information? I haven't seen a person beeing this angry at SC2s current state in a long time.



I am not really into online shooters, but I can see Overwatch doing extremely well on the Switch. It will sell to an audience very similar to Splatoon 2



Marth said:
Wyrdness said:

Serral beat all the top Korean players in his wins including Innovation and Stats, Maru in the same recent tournament got destroyed by someone Serral swatted.

No 12 worker star broke the game it's is the main cause of the erratic early game the game has and I can highlight why, 12 workers gives players near full mineral saturation the result is builds that were never intended to be viable now exist and example is how Protoss can expand as fast as Zerg now while being able to pressure your natural with an array of cheeses and pushes. This was not possible before because the 6 worker start meant taking a gas impacted expanding and a players economy this what everyone on BNet, TL and Reddit SC are now realising and bringing up because you can't balance a game where the flawed econ undermines its fundamentals.

And where do people bring this up? I see no threads of this anywhere.
You are very angry about SC2 for some reason.

While Serral has won GSL vs the World it doesn't automatically give him the title of best player in the world. Maru didn't get destroyed by Stats and Stats didn't get swatted by Serrel. Were you even watching the games? The finals was damn close.

In regards to the 12 worker start I haven't seen anyone complain about it recently. All complaints were when it was implemented which was almost 3 years ago.
And the game is now in the best state it has ever been. Games rarely are a build order wins. The matches are dynamic and fluid with lots of oppurtunities to outplay your opponent.
Not the goddamn snorefest that was HotS or the shitty one dimensional matchups of WoL. And the community as a whole agrees that its better then ever.

Even the hacker situation is nowadays way better then before LotV. Back than when HotS was out there were a lot of free hacks and many hackers on the ladders. Nowadays you have to play a insane amount of games to actually meet one. The TL thread of suspected hackers is mostly dead nowadays. And Blizzard makes hacks unusable on a regular basis so the only available ones you have to pay quite a sum of money for.

I would like to know where you get your information? I haven't seen a person beeing this angry at SC2s current state in a long time.

Idk man probably from Avilo, as i always hear him saying that. 

I don't think that the game has balance issues, but i think that Z and P have a smaller skill ceilings then T which is why you see such a big gap between tier 1 and tier 2 Terrans.