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The best post of the thread in question: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8843464

I watched the video from the OP completely, and while I see that some may dislike the direction nothing was really worrying. It didn't seem the more inclusive stories were forced, it seemed more like natural included. So, I can see that some might not like the direction the stories are going, that is no reason for raging out.

Personally I had problems with that TLOU2-trailer on a completely different level. This (and also the Tomb Raider showing at E3) were overly brutal. The killings were unnessecarily cruel and I had the feeling the focus was put on them. Did the camera zoom in a little or so? That put me really off, not the kiss. And really, people bothered by a harmless kiss instead of murdering a dozen or so persons is what is really bothering.

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Jeez, just read some of that stuff, kind of ashamed of society.



Cobretti2 said:
well i must have missed the drama as my eyes are buggered atm and can barely stay long enough near a screen to read everything,

On side note WTF is a SJW lol?? any why is Naughty Dog in it lol

"Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, as well as identity politics. The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction, and engaging in disingenuous arguments."

Naughty Dog are considered to be SJW's because they don't want to admit that homosexuality is an sin, invented by Satan to destroy humanity.



This is the issue. There is a divide that no longer allows for meaningful discussion. You're either an SJW or an alt-right creep. If you have grievances with Joel not being the main character, you're lumped in with the people who don't like Ellie's lesbianism. If you don't have a problem with Ellie and the trailer, you're a proponent of social justice agendas in games suddenly. It always goes hostile, no matter what. Some start with good intentions and others bad intentions. It's mostly the latter. This is a problem that sadly goes over everything, be it games or politics.

However, my opinion is always this. It's a site that is private, and there are rules. Follow them or leave. Nobody is being forced to do anything. There are plenty outlets out there do have discussions like the one that was posted.



Issue is no one wants to take responsibly and when mods do they get called out for it. The fact they let the thread go on as long as it did where places like era wouldn't entertain it all should be testament.

It's easy to sit by the sidelines and judge the miss decision, but what if they let it go on and it turned into a real shit show? Then it would be a case of mods don't care and the site could be accused of not backing one horse or the other.

Considering this, where do you draw the line?! Essentially the mods gave the freedom to debate until the thread started to take a turn for the worse and like any civil society enforced rules to stop it getting worse. Actions have consequences and if oneangrygamer don't like it, it highlights his shortcomings more than ours.



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Oh, OneAngryBaby...I feel like that's the kind of site where you actually want to be on the shit-list.



Flilix said:
Cobretti2 said:
well i must have missed the drama as my eyes are buggered atm and can barely stay long enough near a screen to read everything,

On side note WTF is a SJW lol?? any why is Naughty Dog in it lol

"Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, as well as identity politics. The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction, and engaging in disingenuous arguments."

Naughty Dog are considered to be SJW's because they don't want to admit that homosexuality is an sin, invented by Satan to destroy humanity.

Completely agree. Shame on you Naughty Dog, shame on you!

However.... they kind of warned us, being called 'Naughty' and such.

On a more serious tone, I would prefer to have Joel as the main character, I think he is more charismatic, however, I still give a lot of credit to Naught Dog, so I will wait and see. I don't think they are doing this for the so called 'SJW agenda', but in the end, after playing the game, if I think that all this Ellie stuff was indeed forced into the game, I will admit that I was wrong and probably will end up not playing Naughty Dog's games for some time,  but I really cannot understand all the hate that the game is receiving beforehand.



I think the kissing scene to open up TLoU2 was a move by Naughty Dog to gain publicity. They knew it would stir the pot and drum up some interesting debates online. Personally, watching that scene made me very uncomfortable, and I, too, would not like to see that sort of thing. That's not to say I don't "accept" the LGBT community, but I do admit that it makes me uncomfortable and I'd rather see without it.



Think I found my new forum home.



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Flilix said:
Cobretti2 said:
well i must have missed the drama as my eyes are buggered atm and can barely stay long enough near a screen to read everything,

On side note WTF is a SJW lol?? any why is Naughty Dog in it lol

"Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, as well as identity politics. The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction, and engaging in disingenuous arguments."

Naughty Dog are considered to be SJW's because they don't want to admit that homosexuality is an sin, invented by Satan to destroy humanity.

Well i wasn't expecting this kind of response.

That is one stupid reason about naughty dog.  Whatever happened to just playing good games and not worrying aobut details that don't impact a persons life?