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TheBird said:

I remember after E3 (I refused to watch the Sony E3 because I am simply an Xbox and Nintendo exclusive guy), all I saw was Ellie kissing some chick in the thumbnails of videos and I completely ignored the game since until now. Pretty big situation at hand here, and I'm glad people are pushing back against this stuff and not letting it slide by smoothly like we have for so long. I like this website for its sales charts, and having discussions. But now I feel like these discussions are being threatened after you guys banned the one thread, it is a big deal, this place for many people is a safe forum for discussions since it is so small and community like.

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by this? Acknowledging that gay people exist needs to be fought against? Not really understanding the commentary here.



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TheBird said:
CGI-Quality said:

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I never saw the thread, and never actually looked into the whole Naughty Dog issue until literally just now. From what i'm reading I'm going to guess that the thread was very hostile in the sense that people just weren't friendly towards each other and were unable to have a friendly political debate.

 

I remember after E3 (I refused to watch the Sony E3 because I am simply an Xbox and Nintendo exclusive guy), all I saw was Ellie kissing some chick in the thumbnails of videos and I completely ignored the game since until now. Pretty big situation at hand here, and I'm glad people are pushing back against this stuff and not letting it slide by smoothly like we have for so long. I like this website for its sales charts, and having discussions. But now I feel like these discussions are being threatened after you guys banned the one thread, it is a big deal, this place for many people is a safe forum for discussions since it is so small and community like.

And not a safe place in a sense that using the word "SJW" is not nice to some people, so we must punish those who use the word to attack others to appeal to 1% of the population here. Safe in the sense that everyone knows each other, and people can discuss with familiar faces around the world everyday in politics, games, and movies no matter their differing views and just move on the next day to the next big discussion.

 

We're also now being compared to the 4th Reich ResetEra, which means it is probably in your best interest for damage control and to just let people be. To find who rules over you, simply look at those who you can't criticize.

It's still safe. Consider this—many threads here aren't locked. Why? Despite a chunk of them being controversial, they don't get to a point where a lock is inevitable. We lock threads that are headed South, not strictly due to the material discussed. Had that been the case, we would have locked it just after Submission. We watched as it progressed, saw where it was headed, and decided to lock it before it got worse. My fault in it? I could have worded it better, but the lock was coming regardless of the wording. It was just that kind of thread.

As for the Era comparisons, again, we've been compared to them before. We've received plenty of hate over the years as well, of course due to our tracking of sales. Yet, we keep to what we do. Look at the situation in its entirety. We shouldn't fret over the opinion of a website that obviously allows the most toxic of people to comment on their articles.

Lastly, I must ask, what exactly are you glad to see people pushing back against?



                                                                                                             

See, I read the thread title and mistakenly assumed it was good news... turns out it's over something extremely petty and is taken completely out of context anyway. Some of those comments are disgusting too, lol.

Best thing to do? Fuck 'em. We're doing fine as is, and as the annoying yet appropriate saying goes; Haters gonna' hate.



TheBird said:

I never saw the thread, and never actually looked into the whole Naughty Dog issue until literally just now. From what i'm reading I'm going to guess that the thread was very hostile in the sense that people just weren't friendly towards each other and were unable to have a friendly political debate.

 

I remember after E3 (I refused to watch the Sony E3 because I am simply an Xbox and Nintendo exclusive guy), all I saw was Ellie kissing some chick in the thumbnails of videos and I completely ignored the game since until now. Pretty big situation at hand here, and I'm glad people are pushing back against this stuff and not letting it slide by smoothly like we have for so long. I like this website for its sales charts, and having discussions. But now I feel like these discussions are being threatened after you guys banned the one thread, it is a big deal, this place for many people is a safe forum for discussions since it is so small and community like.

And not a safe place in a sense that using the word "SJW" is not nice to some people, so we must punish those who use the word to attack others to appeal to 1% of the population here. Safe in the sense that everyone knows each other, and people can discuss with familiar faces around the world everyday in politics, games, and movies no matter their differing views and just move on the next day to the next big discussion.

 

We're also now being compared to the 4th Reich ResetEra, which means it is probably in your best interest for damage control and to just let people be. To find who rules over you, simply look at those who you can't criticize.

I'm curious to know why you're glad people are pushing back against the kiss from the TLOU2 E3 trailer. Are you against it just on the basis that it's two lesbians kissing or something else?

And about the term, "SJW", this is only me speaking for myself, but I'll put it out here. There are people who when they say "SJW", they mean progressive authoritarians and they definitely exist. On the other hand, there are people who just shout "SJW" whenever they read or hear an opinion that they disagree with, making them no different from the SJW's they criticize. We don't like the latter.



TheBird said:
CGI-Quality said:

Admittedly, I was bothered by some things that went on in the thread (as were other Mods) and should have worded the lock with more neutrality (I'm not so much as bothered by the phrase 'SJW' as I am bugged by the means with which some use it to attack others), but it was headed for a lock either way. It had become a mess, and really, we can't stop what we do here because of a website's opinion (particularly a website as toxic as that). The Era lock had far less words and still made it on that site's 'shit list' (a place VGC has been for a long time, mind you, due to the fact that our data isn't 100% accurate).

One Angry Gamer has an agenda (which is clearly to attack Naughty Dog). That isn't the fault of Era nor VGC.

I never saw the thread, and never actually looked into the whole Naughty Dog issue until literally just now. From what i'm reading I'm going to guess that the thread was very hostile in the sense that people just weren't friendly towards each other and were unable to have a friendly political debate.

 

I remember after E3 (I refused to watch the Sony E3 because I am simply an Xbox and Nintendo exclusive guy), all I saw was Ellie kissing some chick in the thumbnails of videos and I completely ignored the game since until now. Pretty big situation at hand here, and I'm glad people are pushing back against this stuff and not letting it slide by smoothly like we have for so long. I like this website for its sales charts, and having discussions. But now I feel like these discussions are being threatened after you guys banned the one thread, it is a big deal, this place for many people is a safe forum for discussions since it is so small and community like.

And not a safe place in a sense that using the word "SJW" is not nice to some people, so we must punish those who use the word to attack others to appeal to 1% of the population here. Safe in the sense that everyone knows each other, and people can discuss with familiar faces around the world everyday in politics, games, and movies no matter their differing views and just move on the next day to the next big discussion.

 

We're also now being compared to the 4th Reich ResetEra, which means it is probably in your best interest for damage control and to just let people be. To find who rules over you, simply look at those who you can't criticize.

Saying VGC moderation is similar to ResetEra moderation is just plain silly. There is absolutely no similarities between the site. On that site saying anything that the community doesn't agree with, you get permabanned. Any single person in that thread that agreed with the person in video would have gotten a straight permaban at resetera. Look at what we did, we let the discussion continue and only took action when the thread was starting to turn hostile. We have no intention to censor opinions at VGC, if we did that thread would have been closed the minute we saw it.



     

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Somebody really wrote an article about that? Good grief... what a waste of time...



gergroy said:
Somebody really wrote an article about that? Good grief... what a waste of time...

Indeed, but y'know... this is the internet, lol :P 



cycycychris said:
TheBird said:

I never saw the thread, and never actually looked into the whole Naughty Dog issue until literally just now. From what i'm reading I'm going to guess that the thread was very hostile in the sense that people just weren't friendly towards each other and were unable to have a friendly political debate.

 

I remember after E3 (I refused to watch the Sony E3 because I am simply an Xbox and Nintendo exclusive guy), all I saw was Ellie kissing some chick in the thumbnails of videos and I completely ignored the game since until now. Pretty big situation at hand here, and I'm glad people are pushing back against this stuff and not letting it slide by smoothly like we have for so long. I like this website for its sales charts, and having discussions. But now I feel like these discussions are being threatened after you guys banned the one thread, it is a big deal, this place for many people is a safe forum for discussions since it is so small and community like.

And not a safe place in a sense that using the word "SJW" is not nice to some people, so we must punish those who use the word to attack others to appeal to 1% of the population here. Safe in the sense that everyone knows each other, and people can discuss with familiar faces around the world everyday in politics, games, and movies no matter their differing views and just move on the next day to the next big discussion.

 

We're also now being compared to the 4th Reich ResetEra, which means it is probably in your best interest for damage control and to just let people be. To find who rules over you, simply look at those who you can't criticize.

Saying VGC moderation is similar to ResetEra moderation is just plain silly. There is absolutely no similarities between the site. On that site saying anything that the community doesn't agree with, you get permabanned. Any single person in that thread that agreed with the person in video would have gotten a straight permaban at resetera. Look at what we did, we let the discussion continue and only took action when the thread was starting to turn hostile. We have no intention to censor opinions at VGC, if we did that thread would have been closed the minute we saw it.

At no given moment in my life did I say this website is turning into ResetEra, unless you are just adding to what I'm saying (I seriously hope this is the scenario), I see what you're saying and know you speak the truth, and nothing but the truth.  If you seriously think I saying this site is turning into ResetEra, then I beg this discussion go no further because it will be just a waste of time that would be much better spent making fun of ResetEra for their terrible moderation.



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