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My vote goes to...

Super Mario Bros 9 6.98%
 
Super Mario World 10 7.75%
 
Mario 64 38 29.46%
 
Wii Sports 6 4.65%
 
Zelda Twilight Princess 5 3.88%
 
Zelda Breath of the Wild 60 46.51%
 
Other 1 0.78%
 
Total:129
Wyrdness said:
BOTW easily not only one of the best games in history in the modern era but it also set the Switch on its way only SMB on NES really matches that as the other launch titles were good but didn't give their platforms the high momentum these games did.

Wii Sports was a huge system seller for the Wii, was it not?



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curl-6 said:
Wyrdness said:
BOTW easily not only one of the best games in history in the modern era but it also set the Switch on its way only SMB on NES really matches that as the other launch titles were good but didn't give their platforms the high momentum these games did.

Wii Sports was a huge system seller for the Wii, was it not?

That's always been open for some debate to me as it sold to blue ocean crowd yes but it can be argued that Wii had other things going for it to sell to the same crowd like good marketing, motion controls and being ultra affordable as well (it was the same the PSP at the time which had been out for a while at that point) and it being a bundled game in all regions except Japan, Wii launched with Twilight Princess as well mind you which like BOTW was heavily anticipated even if we give it the sales factor quality wise it's nowhere near BOTW and some of the others. Imo the Wii itself was it's own seller to the BO crowd and games like WS benefited heavily hence why Wiisports Club on WiiU barely even registered on charts as the hardware couldn't sell itself like its predecessor.

I'm sure it would have sold well with out bundling during the Wii era as WSR sold 32m but not 82m if it wasn't bundled, keep in mind game's like Wiiplay also 28m during this period, these games imo weren't system sellers they were games that rode the tide the Wii created for itself.



Smash bros melee for the GameCube was probably the best launch title for me... it’s not on your poll though...



Wyrdness said:
curl-6 said:

Wii Sports was a huge system seller for the Wii, was it not?

That's always been open for some debate to me as it sold to blue ocean crowd yes but it can be argued that Wii had other things going for it to sell to the same crowd like good marketing, motion controls and being ultra affordable as well (it was the same the PSP at the time which had been out for a while at that point) and it being a bundled game in all regions except Japan, Wii launched with Twilight Princess as well mind you which like BOTW was heavily anticipated even if we give it the sales factor quality wise it's nowhere near BOTW and some of the others. Imo the Wii itself was it's own seller to the BO crowd and games like WS benefited heavily hence why Wiisports Club on WiiU barely even registered on charts as the hardware couldn't sell itself like its predecessor.

I'm sure it would have sold well with out bundling during the Wii era as WSR sold 32m but not 82m if it wasn't bundled, keep in mind game's like Wiiplay also 28m during this period, these games imo weren't system sellers they were games that rode the tide the Wii created for itself.

I don't think motion controls would've sold the Wii out of the gate had they not been so brilliantly and accessibly demonstrated by Wii Sports. It was the game that made motion controls appealing to the blue ocean in the first place by showing how fun they could be.

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gergroy said:
Smash bros melee for the GameCube was probably the best launch title for me... it’s not on your poll though...

Wasn't  a launch-title, Melee was released a few weeks later



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curl-6 said:

I don't think motion controls would've sold the Wii out of the gate had they not been so brilliantly and accessibly demonstrated by Wii Sports. It was the game that made motion controls appealing to the blue ocean in the first place by showing how fun they could be.

Which is why I listed a number of other factors including the low price one thing that was clearly a factor for the BO was cost it's one reason many of them are on mobile gaming now days, Wii was ultra affordable to the point you could buy one on impulse with out much issue to a person's finance and this was during the recession as well. WS was a good demonstration of the tech but then Twilight Princess had a massive hand in launching the platform (500k in one day for it) and because you'd have a copy of WS no matter what you bought Wii for everyone got to try the game, it can be argued TP was actually the better and key launch game for the platform and WS came into action afterwards.



Super Mario World .... I'm old enough to remember the hype. We had to wait almost 17 MONTHS for the SNES to hit shelves in Europe and in a meantime you could read the previews and reviews where it was praised as "one of the best games ever made" etc. The wait was unbearable, especially when you were 10 ... and I didn't get my SNES until my birthday, 6 months later. I know that many people were super hyped by Mario 64, but I never got N64 as by that time I was well into PC and my mind was already blown by Quake and Tomb Raider (again we, didn't get N64 in Europe until 6 months or so later).

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Kristof81 said:
Super Mario World .... I'm old enough to remember the hype. We had to wait almost 17 MONTHS for the SNES to hit shelves in Europe and in a meantime you could read the previews and reviews where it was praised as "one of the best games ever made" etc. The wait was unbearable, especially if you were 10 ... and I didn't get my SNES until my birthday, 6 months later. I know that many people were super hyped by Mario 64, but I never got N64 as by that time I was well into PC and my mind was already blown by Quake and Tomb Raider (again we, didn't get N64 in Europe until 6 months or so later).

You're going by the US release the initial release of the N64 was June we waited 10 months, being a gamer in Europe at the time was painful late releases and numerous gems not making it over.



NightlyPoe said:
There should probably be an honorable mention for Tetris on Gameboy.

Yes!

 

As for the OP though, Would you really consider the inclusion of BoTW and Twilight Princess, they are good games and did launch with the systems they're on... but they're also both ports of the works on the last generation machine for many years, Twilight Princess I would more see as the send off to the amazing GC and the same really with BoTW on the WiiU sure those games likely sold more units on the new gen machines at the time but still they're ports of previous gen games.

Mario 64 on the other hand was built from the ground up for the N64, the graphics, sound, stages and even controls of the game were all built around the system. (look at Twilight Princess again on the Wii.... the whole game is played in mirror mode on the Wii because the original game has Link left handed which wouldn't work for the majority of gamers on the Wii so the game as a whole was hit with a mirror to go onto that system)



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Ganoncrotch said:
NightlyPoe said:
There should probably be an honorable mention for Tetris on Gameboy.

Yes!

 

As for the OP though, Would you really consider the inclusion of BoTW and Twilight Princess, they are good games and did launch with the systems they're on... but they're also both ports of the works on the last generation machine for many years, Twilight Princess I would more see as the send off to the amazing GC and the same really with BoTW on the WiiU sure those games likely sold more units on the new gen machines at the time but still they're ports of previous gen games.

Mario 64 on the other hand was built from the ground up for the N64, the graphics, sound, stages and even controls of the game were all built around the system. (look at Twilight Princess again on the Wii.... the whole game is played in mirror mode on the Wii because the original game has Link left handed which wouldn't work for the majority of gamers on the Wii so the game as a whole was hit with a mirror to go onto that system)

Mario 64 was originally in development for the SNES as Super Mario FX and as the name implied it was going to use the FX chip in the cartridge it was moved to N64 as development dragged on so it wasn't a ground up game as you think. Even the Bowser assault course levels in M64 were already up and running before it was an N64 game.