My vote goes to... | |||
| Super Mario Bros | 9 | 6.98% | |
| Super Mario World | 10 | 7.75% | |
| Mario 64 | 38 | 29.46% | |
| Wii Sports | 6 | 4.65% | |
| Zelda Twilight Princess | 5 | 3.88% | |
| Zelda Breath of the Wild | 60 | 46.51% | |
| Other | 1 | 0.78% | |
| Total: | 129 | ||
| gergroy said: Smash bros melee for the GameCube was probably the best launch title for me... it’s not on your poll though... |
Wasn't a launch-title, Melee was released a few weeks later
| curl-6 said: I don't think motion controls would've sold the Wii out of the gate had they not been so brilliantly and accessibly demonstrated by Wii Sports. It was the game that made motion controls appealing to the blue ocean in the first place by showing how fun they could be. |
Which is why I listed a number of other factors including the low price one thing that was clearly a factor for the BO was cost it's one reason many of them are on mobile gaming now days, Wii was ultra affordable to the point you could buy one on impulse with out much issue to a person's finance and this was during the recession as well. WS was a good demonstration of the tech but then Twilight Princess had a massive hand in launching the platform (500k in one day for it) and because you'd have a copy of WS no matter what you bought Wii for everyone got to try the game, it can be argued TP was actually the better and key launch game for the platform and WS came into action afterwards.
Super Mario World .... I'm old enough to remember the hype. We had to wait almost 17 MONTHS for the SNES to hit shelves in Europe and in a meantime you could read the previews and reviews where it was praised as "one of the best games ever made" etc. The wait was unbearable, especially when you were 10 ... and I didn't get my SNES until my birthday, 6 months later. I know that many people were super hyped by Mario 64, but I never got N64 as by that time I was well into PC and my mind was already blown by Quake and Tomb Raider (again we, didn't get N64 in Europe until 6 months or so later).
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| Kristof81 said: Super Mario World .... I'm old enough to remember the hype. We had to wait almost 17 MONTHS for the SNES to hit shelves in Europe and in a meantime you could read the previews and reviews where it was praised as "one of the best games ever made" etc. The wait was unbearable, especially if you were 10 ... and I didn't get my SNES until my birthday, 6 months later. I know that many people were super hyped by Mario 64, but I never got N64 as by that time I was well into PC and my mind was already blown by Quake and Tomb Raider (again we, didn't get N64 in Europe until 6 months or so later). |
You're going by the US release the initial release of the N64 was June we waited 10 months, being a gamer in Europe at the time was painful late releases and numerous gems not making it over.
| NightlyPoe said: There should probably be an honorable mention for Tetris on Gameboy. |
Yes!
As for the OP though, Would you really consider the inclusion of BoTW and Twilight Princess, they are good games and did launch with the systems they're on... but they're also both ports of the works on the last generation machine for many years, Twilight Princess I would more see as the send off to the amazing GC and the same really with BoTW on the WiiU sure those games likely sold more units on the new gen machines at the time but still they're ports of previous gen games.
Mario 64 on the other hand was built from the ground up for the N64, the graphics, sound, stages and even controls of the game were all built around the system. (look at Twilight Princess again on the Wii.... the whole game is played in mirror mode on the Wii because the original game has Link left handed which wouldn't work for the majority of gamers on the Wii so the game as a whole was hit with a mirror to go onto that system)
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Ganoncrotch said:
Yes!
As for the OP though, Would you really consider the inclusion of BoTW and Twilight Princess, they are good games and did launch with the systems they're on... but they're also both ports of the works on the last generation machine for many years, Twilight Princess I would more see as the send off to the amazing GC and the same really with BoTW on the WiiU sure those games likely sold more units on the new gen machines at the time but still they're ports of previous gen games. Mario 64 on the other hand was built from the ground up for the N64, the graphics, sound, stages and even controls of the game were all built around the system. (look at Twilight Princess again on the Wii.... the whole game is played in mirror mode on the Wii because the original game has Link left handed which wouldn't work for the majority of gamers on the Wii so the game as a whole was hit with a mirror to go onto that system) |
Mario 64 was originally in development for the SNES as Super Mario FX and as the name implied it was going to use the FX chip in the cartridge it was moved to N64 as development dragged on so it wasn't a ground up game as you think. Even the Bowser assault course levels in M64 were already up and running before it was an N64 game.
Wyrdness said:
Mario 64 was originally in development for the SNES as Super Mario FX and as the name implied it was going to use the FX chip in the cartridge it was moved to N64 as development dragged on so it wasn't a ground up game as you think. Even the Bowser assault course levels in M64 were already up and running before it was an N64 game. |
https://youtu.be/mbMKdIYjZGc?t=3m17s
Wasn't even passed pre production of "Mario in 3d would be cool" Unless you have a source to the stages of Mario 64 actually working on a Super Nintendo I mean... you are talking about a machine which is 45times less capable from a cpu point of view and near infinitely in a ram/gpu comparison.
Super Mario FX
Mario chip... or the Super FX chip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_64#Development
"More than five years prior to the release of Super Mario 64, producer and director Shigeru Miyamoto conceived a 3D Mario design, while also working on the SNES game Star Fox, developed by Nintendo along with Argonaut Software. He considered using the Super FX chip to develop a SNES game which would have been called Super Mario FX, with gameplay based on "an entire world in miniature, like miniature trains".[26] Instead, he eventually reformulated the 3D Mario idea for the Nintendo 64 - not due to the next generation console's substantially greater power, but because its controller has more buttons for gameplay.[14][27] According to former Argonaut engineer Dylan Cuthbert, no game titled Super Mario FX had ever entered development, but rather "Super Mario FX" was the internal code name of the Super FX chip itself."
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Between BOTW and SM64. SM64 carried the 64 the first couple of years and BOTW was the only real game at launch. Both magnificent in their own perspective.
Ganoncrotch said:
https://youtu.be/mbMKdIYjZGc?t=3m17s Wasn't even passed pre production of "Mario in 3d would be cool" Unless you have a source to the stages of Mario 64 actually working on a Super Nintendo I mean... you are talking about a machine which is 45times less capable from a cpu point of view and near infinitely in a ram/gpu comparison. Super Mario FX
Mario chip... or the Super FX chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_64#Development "More than five years prior to the release of Super Mario 64, producer and director Shigeru Miyamoto conceived a 3D Mario design, while also working on the SNES game Star Fox, developed by Nintendo along with Argonaut Software. He considered using the Super FX chip to develop a SNES game which would have been called Super Mario FX, with gameplay based on "an entire world in miniature, like miniature trains".[26] Instead, he eventually reformulated the 3D Mario idea for the Nintendo 64 - not due to the next generation console's substantially greater power, but because its controller has more buttons for gameplay.[14][27] According to former Argonaut engineer Dylan Cuthbert, no game titled Super Mario FX had ever entered development, but rather "Super Mario FX" was the internal code name of the Super FX chip itself." |
Pre production just means the game never fully gets into it's development cycle the level itself was a prototype and never functioned as smoothly as they'd like I'll look for the DYKG video although DYKG weren't the only ones to claim the was a prototype floating around.
http://uk.ign.com/games/super-mario-fx
"Super Mario 64 was probably one of the first titles developed for Nintendo’s 64 bit console. There are rumors of a 3D prototype existing on the SNES using the systems Super FX chip, but this prototype was kept behind closed doors, so no images of it exist. It’s safe to assume that this would have been an isometric platforming adventure, and played similarly to the older games of the Mario name.
With Nintendo’s prototype next-generation console, “Project Reality”, the game went from a FX chip prototype to a 3D beta on the 64-bit new hardware. The SNES prototype was never seen or heard about again. Even with this project on the Nintendo 64, original designs still stuck to the isometric viewpoint. Like with the older games, this one had players taking their chances jumping form platform to platform to reach the end of a level. As the game went on, this concept was kept intact for the game’s boss stages were the player would fight bowser."
Also the game wasn't built around the platform the platform changed to suit the game's vision as the analogue was added because of the game.
melbye said:
Wasn't a launch-title, Melee was released a few weeks later |
Yeah, general consensus is any title released in first month or so is considered a launch title as it shipped in the launch window, but whatevers
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