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This is clearly Nintendo's fault for not making the Switch even more successful because that would have been the only way for Capcom to have enough of an incentive to release a physical edition. Basic logic.



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Ganoncrotch said:
routsounmanman said:

I like to keep my games as a collection, in fact I still have my original GB working along with over 30 games. Nevertheless, even if I completely ignore that and say that I download this game (and I could theoretically keep it in my Switch forever since I have a 200GB sd card), why just the Switch version?

Doesn't it bother you when you're being treated differently? And I would be OK if this were a one time affair, but Capcom has scammed Nintendo Switch for over a year now. This is so not cool for me.

Chuck in Pokemon Gold or Silver into that GB and see how good they work today, I mean... the game will boot but the internal clock will have made the carts effectively worthless for save files.

It's the same with resi evil 7, that on switch wasn't a title I'd ever expect to be able to play on the system, but now you can (if you're in Japan) and enjoy playing the game for 6 months for 20e, which is cheaper than other formats and the game is far far far shorter than 6 months worth of play time, but you can finish it for 2/3 the price it is on the other systems with no download required, think of them as options for people to enjoy the games rather than "scamming"

Using the battery of old cartridges is a really bad comparison. Back then, that tech was the best they could do to preserve the saved files, now modern cartridges can save way more info for a longer period of time. And even then, I can just add another battery to my GC cartridge and play just fine, but if I pay for RE7 and I want to play after a year I have nothing. Even most digital games, I can just save the games I purchased as a backup. I can't do a thing with cloud gaming.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Chuck in Pokemon Gold or Silver into that GB and see how good they work today, I mean... the game will boot but the internal clock will have made the carts effectively worthless for save files.

It's the same with resi evil 7, that on switch wasn't a title I'd ever expect to be able to play on the system, but now you can (if you're in Japan) and enjoy playing the game for 6 months for 20e, which is cheaper than other formats and the game is far far far shorter than 6 months worth of play time, but you can finish it for 2/3 the price it is on the other systems with no download required, think of them as options for people to enjoy the games rather than "scamming"

Using the battery of old cartridges is a really bad comparison. Back then, that tech was the best they could do to preserve the saved files, now modern cartridges can save way more info for a longer period of time. And even then, I can just add another battery to my GC cartridge and play just fine, but if I pay for RE7 and I want to play after a year I have nothing. Even most digital games, I can just save the games I purchased as a backup. I can't do a thing with cloud gaming.

If you have no issues doing the soldering work to remove and replace the battery in a GB cart then you should equally have no issues with getting a version of a digital download game to work on a platform 10 years after it has come out, considering that board modification of a GB breaks the EULA with it, the same can be said about modifying a console to play "backups" of games anyway.

As for the resi evil 7 thing... if you pay for a 6 month lease to play it... after 6 months you have nothing if you want to play it, that is the nature of a 6 month/180 day lease to play the game, it works the same if you buy insurance for your car for 6 months, in 12 months time you will have nothing because that is how time and leases work, the idea is you buy it, then play it during the purchased time.

just incase the obviously bad analogy of insurance annoys since it's not gaming related

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I heard tales of how Capcom in Europe were some cheap dastards when it comes to Nintendo but it still seems crazy how bad they are at this 'support' they give. I mean after a year the writing should be clear to see the Switch is going to be a success and probably number 2 this generation.



Someone please gather the dragon Balls and ask ShenLong that Capcom disappear from the face of the earth.

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Ganoncrotch said:
This impacts me in no way what so ever and the people who think it does impact them need to think to themselves "what difference does it make" other than not having to carry an extra cart with your system or to be awkwardly trying to change carts while traveling rather than just clicking it on the home screen.

Honestly the most annoying game on the Switch is imaginators which is the only title not available digitally.

You're acting as if digital is convenient for every person that's not the case especially when you have to factor not only the type of internet people may have whether or not they have a big enough SD card with enough space, what's good for you may not be for other people. Digital is also subject to the servers while a hard copy isn't which is a key reason people opt for the latter.



Ganoncrotch said:
This impacts me in no way what so ever and the people who think it does impact them need to think to themselves "what difference does it make" other than not having to carry an extra cart with your system or to be awkwardly trying to change carts while traveling rather than just clicking it on the home screen.



Honestly the most annoying game on the Switch is imaginators which is the only title not available digitally.

Digital has a huge downside for me. I have two Switch consoles at home. One for me and one for my son. I just need one copy of a physical game and we both can enjoy it. With digital games I would have to buy a game two times for that. I know I could deactivate and activate the consoles all the time, but seriously, that's way more inconvenient than just swapping the cartridge.

 

Also, I like to trade games with friends. Doesn't work too well with digital stuff. =

 

While I'm not against digital games in any way, I strongly believe that the Best solution for us as consumers is to have as many options as possible. That way everyone can just choose what he likes best. What works for you isn't neccessarily the optimal solution for everybody else in the world.

 

That said, fuck you, Capcom!



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Ganoncrotch said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Using the battery of old cartridges is a really bad comparison. Back then, that tech was the best they could do to preserve the saved files, now modern cartridges can save way more info for a longer period of time. And even then, I can just add another battery to my GC cartridge and play just fine, but if I pay for RE7 and I want to play after a year I have nothing. Even most digital games, I can just save the games I purchased as a backup. I can't do a thing with cloud gaming.

If you have no issues doing the soldering work to remove and replace the battery in a GB cart then you should equally have no issues with getting a version of a digital download game to work on a platform 10 years after it has come out, considering that board modification of a GB breaks the EULA with it, the same can be said about modifying a console to play "backups" of games anyway.

As for the resi evil 7 thing... if you pay for a 6 month lease to play it... after 6 months you have nothing if you want to play it, that is the nature of a 6 month/180 day lease to play the game, it works the same if you buy insurance for your car for 6 months, in 12 months time you will have nothing because that is how time and leases work, the idea is you buy it, then play it during the purchased time.

just incase the obviously bad analogy of insurance annoys since it's not gaming related

wow subscriptions

psn + subs

XBL gold

You aren't meant to buy those things if you aren't going to use them for 10 years, you buy them, and use them, as a consumable.

Those kinds of rental, Netflix-like services are very clear on what they do. Pay a fee and get access to many games, you stop paying and they are gone. That's the deal and, investment-wise, is acceptable for many people. With Capcom doing that for a single game, it makes the deal unassailable: you own nothing, and yet you play only one game. And even then, I have the option of buying whatever game I could get for free in those online services, whereas with Capcom's offering, it's the only choice.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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I wasn’t even sure if this was a physical release in the first place so I’m not as bothered as some but it does suck for those that wanted it. The option should be there.



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