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Otter said:
V-r0cK said:
Nobody should be bother by this because a game that is exclusive to a system makes no difference to us because we are able to play it on whatever system it's made for. Just go out and buy it. Simple.

And if anybody chooses to not buy a game because it's on a platform that you do not prefer to own then clearly that game isn't that important to you.

What kind of nonsense. 

They're huge investments and if someone is not comfortable investing in additional 2 platforms, it doesn't mean that the experiences aren't important for them, it just means that they have to weigh it up against other priorities in life. There are many times when I've missed out on experiences I was very passionate about like concerts, festivals, holidays etc because I have to weight it up against other possibilities/responsibilities. Opportunity costs. Lets not limit peoples experiences just so we can boast of some minor pixel differences and slighter better draw distances


You just added to my point more so.  When you weight up against other priorities in life you realize what games are actually that important to you enough to actually play them.  Just like everybody that has backlog of games, clearly those games weren't important enough to play right away etc...

An exclusive game and a different console doesn't do any harm to anyone so dont hate on it for not investing on them.  If you do hate on it, then then you should hate yourself for having different priorities/financial priorities instead because that game and other console isn't doing anything wrong, it's still there waiting for you.



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DonFerrari said:
Otter said:

What kind of nonsense. 

They're huge investments and if someone is not comfortable investing in additional 2 platforms, it doesn't mean that the experiences aren't important for them, it just means that they have to weigh it up against other priorities in life. There are many times when I've missed out on experiences I was very passionate about like concerts, festivals, holidays etc because I have to weight it up against other possibilities/responsibilities. Opportunity costs. Lets not limit peoples experiences just so we can boast of some minor pixel differences and slighter better draw distances

It just mean that they regarded other things more important. Life is made of choice and they clearly put theirs.

I haven't played a lot of games on Genesis and SNES because I couldn't buy them, some I was able to rent or play at friends house. I don't fret over that since entertainment isn't a right.

Highlighted where I'm actually making a point because I'm struggling to grasp the worth of yours. Of course life is made of choices, of course there are things more important than video games. Lets charge $200 for massive AAA games like GTA and dismiss the increased cost by the fact that if you really want it you will make the choice to pay for it. No one should fret, entertainment isn't a right...

There whole point is that exclusion is unnecessary. The gain is what? A boost from 900p-1080p on your platform of choice? Your eyes will stop caring after 5mins anyway. Games are meant to be fun, they are meant to be experienced. Unless it really compromises the creators vision, lets reduce the barriers to entry.



V-r0cK said:
Otter said:

What kind of nonsense. 

They're huge investments and if someone is not comfortable investing in additional 2 platforms, it doesn't mean that the experiences aren't important for them, it just means that they have to weigh it up against other priorities in life. There are many times when I've missed out on experiences I was very passionate about like concerts, festivals, holidays etc because I have to weight it up against other possibilities/responsibilities. Opportunity costs. Lets not limit peoples experiences just so we can boast of some minor pixel differences and slighter better draw distances


You just added to my point more so.  When you weight up against other priorities in life you realize what games are actually that important to you enough to actually play them.  Just like everybody that has backlog of games, clearly those games weren't important enough to play right away etc...

An exclusive game and a different console doesn't do any harm to anyone so dont hate on it for not investing on them.  If you do hate on it, then then you should hate yourself for having different priorities/financial priorities instead because that game and other console isn't doing anything wrong, it's still there waiting for you.

Yes, hate yourself for having to pay the bills, buy presents for loved ones, invest in social bonds and time with real people *rolls eyes*

You have every reason to question the reasoning which has denied or made it more difficult for you access an experience. If the option is there to remove those barriers and developers choose to enforce them, that is something to dislike. 



Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

It just mean that they regarded other things more important. Life is made of choice and they clearly put theirs.

I haven't played a lot of games on Genesis and SNES because I couldn't buy them, some I was able to rent or play at friends house. I don't fret over that since entertainment isn't a right.

Highlighted where I'm actually making a point because I'm struggling to grasp the worth of yours. Of course life is made of choices, of course there are things more important than video games. Lets charge $200 for massive AAA games like GTA and dismiss the increased cost by the fact that if you really want it you will make the choice to pay for it. No one should fret, entertainment isn't a right...

There whole point is that exclusion is unnecessary. The gain is what? A boost from 900p-1080p on your platform of choice? Your eyes will stop caring after 5mins anyway. Games are meant to be fun, they are meant to be experienced. Unless it really compromises the creators vision, lets reduce the barriers to entry.

Better games and more diversity. Yes, you might be satisfied with standard and selection of games, but others are not.

 

Arguments against exclusivity basically boils down to egocentric cheapskate mentality... adorned with the typical hyperbole.



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Otter said:
V-r0cK said:

You just added to my point more so.  When you weight up against other priorities in life you realize what games are actually that important to you enough to actually play them.  Just like everybody that has backlog of games, clearly those games weren't important enough to play right away etc...

An exclusive game and a different console doesn't do any harm to anyone so dont hate on it for not investing on them.  If you do hate on it, then then you should hate yourself for having different priorities/financial priorities instead because that game and other console isn't doing anything wrong, it's still there waiting for you.

Yes, hate yourself for having to pay the bills, buy presents for loved ones, invest in social bonds and time with real people *rolls eyes*

You have every reason to question the reasoning which has denied or made it more difficult for you access an experience. If the option is there to remove those barriers and developers choose to enforce them, that is something to dislike. 

No. Hate yourself for wanting the video game industry to make things easier on your life lol

I too have bills, mortgage payments, car payments, tons of love ones I buy presents for, saving up for a wedding, and a large social life with real people too lol

*rolls eyes at those that think their life is more difficult



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My Nintendo games only show up on Nintendo platforms.



Ganoncrotch said:
Azzanation said:

Umm yes, anyone with a PC has access to those apps.. unless you game on Apple which than you have a different problem.

Yes, you can go and install various different apps which give you access to various different communities on the PC, there is no overlap or intercommunication between those applications or communities though. There is also no unified accounts which pass between any of these online networks afaik.

I am not talking about cross play. I am referring to access to games. Majority of PC gamers have access to the same libraries. Unless.. like i stated before you are gaming on another OS like Apple which is restricted. Thats why to me PC gaming is important. Anyone can own a PC and majority has the same access to the same games. Do you see PC fans fighting over games like the console fans do? 

Having access brings gamers togother, today's gaming is far from this. Gamers are missing out on Gems unless they can afford multiplatforms, and ill admit i wasnt a rich child, i had to sacrifice my choices to play what i liked hence why i was a major Nintendo gamer in my youth.



Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

It just mean that they regarded other things more important. Life is made of choice and they clearly put theirs.

I haven't played a lot of games on Genesis and SNES because I couldn't buy them, some I was able to rent or play at friends house. I don't fret over that since entertainment isn't a right.

Highlighted where I'm actually making a point because I'm struggling to grasp the worth of yours. Of course life is made of choices, of course there are things more important than video games. Lets charge $200 for massive AAA games like GTA and dismiss the increased cost by the fact that if you really want it you will make the choice to pay for it. No one should fret, entertainment isn't a right...

There whole point is that exclusion is unnecessary. The gain is what? A boost from 900p-1080p on your platform of choice? Your eyes will stop caring after 5mins anyway. Games are meant to be fun, they are meant to be experienced. Unless it really compromises the creators vision, lets reduce the barriers to entry.

I have no issue with GTA trying to charge 200, first because I don't care about the game, second is that its game are much more length than others and customers will decide if it is worth. I would think it's a rip-off.

And since my main concern is what I consume, if being exclusive to my platform of choice that is already 90% of the market share for that SW getting a improvement of IQ is a good reason for not releasing in the other platform.

Otter said:
V-r0cK said:

You just added to my point more so.  When you weight up against other priorities in life you realize what games are actually that important to you enough to actually play them.  Just like everybody that has backlog of games, clearly those games weren't important enough to play right away etc...

An exclusive game and a different console doesn't do any harm to anyone so dont hate on it for not investing on them.  If you do hate on it, then then you should hate yourself for having different priorities/financial priorities instead because that game and other console isn't doing anything wrong, it's still there waiting for you.

Yes, hate yourself for having to pay the bills, buy presents for loved ones, invest in social bonds and time with real people *rolls eyes*

You have every reason to question the reasoning which has denied or made it more difficult for you access an experience. If the option is there to remove those barriers and developers choose to enforce them, that is something to dislike. 

Everybody have their lifes, but guess what some have more importance to games and others to concerts. I actually am much more bothered by 60 USD games than 400 USD consoles since it have 0 margin and I buy one while SW I buy like 100 on a gen an they have very large margins.

V-r0cK said:
Otter said:

Yes, hate yourself for having to pay the bills, buy presents for loved ones, invest in social bonds and time with real people *rolls eyes*

You have every reason to question the reasoning which has denied or made it more difficult for you access an experience. If the option is there to remove those barriers and developers choose to enforce them, that is something to dislike. 

No. Hate yourself for wanting the video game industry to make things easier on your life lol

I too have bills, mortgage payments, car payments, tons of love ones I buy presents for, saving up for a wedding, and a large social life with real people too lol

*rolls eyes at those that think their life is more difficult

You aren't allowed to have a hard life but like VG and paying for it instead of consider gaming a social right that should be handed to you even if you don't invest much.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Yes, you can go and install various different apps which give you access to various different communities on the PC, there is no overlap or intercommunication between those applications or communities though. There is also no unified accounts which pass between any of these online networks afaik.

I am not talking about cross play. I am referring to access to games. Majority of PC gamers have access to the same libraries. Unless.. like i stated before you are gaming on another OS like Apple which is restricted. Thats why to me PC gaming is important. Anyone can own a PC and majority has the same access to the same games. Do you see PC fans fighting over games like the console fans do? 

Having access brings gamers togother, today's gaming is far from this. Gamers are missing out on Gems unless they can afford multiplatforms, and ill admit i wasnt a rich child, i had to sacrifice my choices to play what i liked hence why i was a major Nintendo gamer in my youth.

I may be wrong, but I remember a lot of PC gamers complaining about console holding them down, and about the games exclusives to consoles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Zoombael said:
Otter said:

Highlighted where I'm actually making a point because I'm struggling to grasp the worth of yours. Of course life is made of choices, of course there are things more important than video games. Lets charge $200 for massive AAA games like GTA and dismiss the increased cost by the fact that if you really want it you will make the choice to pay for it. No one should fret, entertainment isn't a right...

There whole point is that exclusion is unnecessary. The gain is what? A boost from 900p-1080p on your platform of choice? Your eyes will stop caring after 5mins anyway. Games are meant to be fun, they are meant to be experienced. Unless it really compromises the creators vision, lets reduce the barriers to entry.

Better games and more diversity. Yes, you might be satisfied with standard and selection of games, but others are not.

 

Arguments against exclusivity basically boils down to egocentric cheapskate mentality... adorned with the typical hyperbole.

How would making a game exclusive make it better and more diverse? 

And as for your later point, your lack of self awareness is painful. "Egocentric mentality"? Coming from the person who is advocating for the route which is less consumer friendly and a bigger financial risk for developers.

Last edited by Otter - on 22 May 2018