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Which game will sell better?

God of War 181 85.38%
 
Sea of Thieves 27 12.74%
 
Too close to call 4 1.89%
 
Total:212
twintail on 14 March 2018

Speaking of Game Pass, whats the possibility that MS just bundles downloads from anyone with game pass as part of the sales?

And I dont mean this is some kind of snarky way, im legit wondering if this could be done.



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reviniente on 14 March 2018
VAMatt said:
Is this a serious question? One is a new IP on a user base half the size of the other, which is getting a new release in a major series. God of War will outsell SoT by a mile.

I suppose it is theoretically possible that SoT could get amazing reviews, and ride its streaming success into mega-sales. GoW could, in theory, get shit reviews, release along side a bunch of much better games, and struggle. So, in this theoretical case, it may be possible for Sea of Thieves to be the bigger seller. This is so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous though.

I don't find that possibility 'so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous'. Furthermore, SoT has the potential to sell digitally so masively, that, unless official statements are released, we may never know exactly how much it sold.

Edit: Corrected possiility to possibility.



reviniente on 14 March 2018
twintail said:
Speaking of Game Pass, whats the possibility that MS just bundles downloads from anyone with game pass as part of the sales?

And I dont mean this is some kind of snarky way, im legit wondering if this could be done.

I'm not following.



twintail on 14 March 2018
reviniente said:
twintail said:
Speaking of Game Pass, whats the possibility that MS just bundles downloads from anyone with game pass as part of the sales?

And I dont mean this is some kind of snarky way, im legit wondering if this could be done.

I'm not following.

The thread is about how well these 2 games will sell. Then ppl have said that Game Pass will negatively impact sales numbers for SoT. My question is whether downloads of the game from anyone with game pass could theoretically be added to sales numbers. If so that means Game pass wouldnt negatively impact sales numbers (at least according to MS). Again, my question is whether this is possible.



CalmFire on 14 March 2018

GoW with the utmost ease.

SoT can do well in its own right, but it isn't in the same ballpark with GoW in this regard.



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reviniente on 14 March 2018
twintail said:
reviniente said:

I'm not following.

The thread is about how well these 2 games will sell. Then ppl have said that Game Pass will negatively impact sales numbers for SoT. My question is whether downloads of the game from anyone with game pass could theoretically be added to sales numbers. If so that means Game pass wouldnt negatively impact sales numbers (at least according to MS). Again, my question is whether this is possible.

Oh, I see. I don't think SoT downloads on Game Pass should count as individual sales. What M$ is going for, with the Game Pass initiative, is a massive installed base that brings in a steady flow of revenue. Digital sales from both Xbox One and Windows 10 players not subscribed to Game Pass should definitely count, but as I stated on another post, unless official statements are released, we may never know exactly how much it sold.



Azzanation on 15 March 2018
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Well ill put my money on GoW however that's not based off the game being better but with afew key factors that make these type of comparisons hard and pointless.

1st - GoW will most likely be heavily bundled with most PS4s which will mean the game will sell a ton loads regardless of its quality. Like UC4 and Horizon it will have massive sales just based off the PS4s high demend. Some companies put more efforts in bundling than others so this is a big point to take into consideration.

2nd - Digital sales is becoming bigger and bigger every year so we wont ever know how many these games do digitally, some sell better than others. Games like Sea Of thieves will probably be more popular on the digital side based off its always online game genre.

3rd - Xbox Game Pass will take away from the physical sales which will make game comparisons handicapped.

4th - New IP focused on a completely different genre compared to an already established IP with a lot more marketing behind it.

Game comparisons this day and age is pointless since there isn't an accurate figure of digital sales and game passes plus games being bundled more than other games all make for nothing than just a one sided slag fest.

Yes we already now SoT will be better, MS doesn't do heavy bundling, that customers are obligated to chose the bundle of GoW and not any other available... and of course Horizon ZD had zero chance of doing good sales since it was a new IP, owww wait, it outsold Halo 5 which is from a very well establishedfranchise.

If games like Knack and DriveClub can sell 1 to 2 million copies than anything is possible.

Never underesitmate the power of forced bundling.

Where i am from UC4 was bundled in majority of PS4s, you could not buy a PS4 without UC4 at xmas time unless you brought a Pro. Funny how its sales went from 4m to 8m so fast. Any company can do that, MS could have done it with H5 however there happy with its $400m profit the game turned in. Thats bigger than most movies. Go find out how much money UC4 or Horizon made for PS? 

Ill wait right here. 



Jranation on 15 March 2018

You serious?



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AhsMilk on 15 March 2018

Yes, sea of thieves will sell more of course



DonFerrari on 15 March 2018
reviniente said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes we already now SoT will be better, MS doesn't do heavy bundling, that customers are obligated to chose the bundle of GoW and not any other available... and of course Horizon ZD had zero chance of doing good sales since it was a new IP, owww wait, it outsold Halo 5 which is from a very well establishedfranchise.

So, in short, you're betting on SoT to do better?

Nope I aint, but being a new franchise doesn't prevent it from having good sales, and it could of course outsell GoW.

reviniente said:
VAMatt said:
Is this a serious question? One is a new IP on a user base half the size of the other, which is getting a new release in a major series. God of War will outsell SoT by a mile.

I suppose it is theoretically possible that SoT could get amazing reviews, and ride its streaming success into mega-sales. GoW could, in theory, get shit reviews, release along side a bunch of much better games, and struggle. So, in this theoretical case, it may be possible for Sea of Thieves to be the bigger seller. This is so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous though.

I don't find that possibility 'so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous'. Furthermore, SoT has the potential to sell digitally so masively, that, unless official statements are released, we may never know exactly how much it sold.

Edit: Corrected possiility to possibility.

So that is a coup out that doesn't matter the sales you or others can just say that digital were so big (even without any data) that it sold more than any other game right?

Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes we already now SoT will be better, MS doesn't do heavy bundling, that customers are obligated to chose the bundle of GoW and not any other available... and of course Horizon ZD had zero chance of doing good sales since it was a new IP, owww wait, it outsold Halo 5 which is from a very well establishedfranchise.

If games like Knack and DriveClub can sell 1 to 2 million copies than anything is possible.

Never underesitmate the power of forced bundling.

Where i am from UC4 was bundled in majority of PS4s, you could not buy a PS4 without UC4 at xmas time unless you brought a Pro. Funny how its sales went from 4m to 8m so fast. Any company can do that, MS could have done it with H5 however there happy with its $400m profit the game turned in. Thats bigger than most movies. Go find out how much money UC4 or Horizon made for PS? 

Ill wait right here. 

Neither Knack nor Driveclub were forced bundles... at the time they released there were vanilla PS4 available and the bundle with Knack and DC had the difference in price as you were paying for those games almost full.

You make assumptions that are pretty unbased on reality, at any point in PS4 time (besides the launch time where you had no inventory available) there were multiple different SKUs of PS4 to buy so no one was obligated to buy a PS4 with UC4. And considering UC previous games also sold a lot, and the game is quite well regarded you can't dismiss it's sales saying they were due to bundling.

Where the heck did you got the 400M profit on H5?



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