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Which game will sell better?

God of War 181 85.38%
 
Sea of Thieves 27 12.74%
 
Too close to call 4 1.89%
 
Total:212

God of War and it won't even be close.



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Azzanation said:

If games like Knack and DriveClub can sell 1 to 2 million copies than anything is possible.

Never underesitmate the power of forced bundling.

Where i am from UC4 was bundled in majority of PS4s, you could not buy a PS4 without UC4 at xmas time unless you brought a Pro. Funny how its sales went from 4m to 8m so fast. Any company can do that, MS could have done it with H5 however there happy with its $400m profit the game turned in. Thats bigger than most movies. Go find out how much money UC4 or Horizon made for PS? 

Ill wait right here. 

Another CLASSIC post! Well done.

The $400m figure isn't profit... it was launch revenue, including the sales of bundled hardware.



Barkley said:
Azzanation said:

If games like Knack and DriveClub can sell 1 to 2 million copies than anything is possible.

Never underesitmate the power of forced bundling.

Where i am from UC4 was bundled in majority of PS4s, you could not buy a PS4 without UC4 at xmas time unless you brought a Pro. Funny how its sales went from 4m to 8m so fast. Any company can do that, MS could have done it with H5 however there happy with its $400m profit the game turned in. Thats bigger than most movies. Go find out how much money UC4 or Horizon made for PS? 

Ill wait right here. 

Another CLASSIC post! Well done.

The $400m figure isn't profit... it was launch revenue, including the sales of bundled hardware.

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God of War



reviniente said:
VAMatt said:
Is this a serious question? One is a new IP on a user base half the size of the other, which is getting a new release in a major series. God of War will outsell SoT by a mile.

I suppose it is theoretically possible that SoT could get amazing reviews, and ride its streaming success into mega-sales. GoW could, in theory, get shit reviews, release along side a bunch of much better games, and struggle. So, in this theoretical case, it may be possible for Sea of Thieves to be the bigger seller. This is so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous though.

I don't find that possibility 'so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous'. Furthermore, SoT has the potential to sell digitally so masively, that, unless official statements are released, we may never know exactly how much it sold.

Edit: Corrected possiility to possibility.

I will grant that the Game Pass angle will make it hard to know which game is actually more popular.  



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DonFerrari said:
reviniente said:

So, in short, you're betting on SoT to do better?

Nope I aint, but being a new franchise doesn't prevent it from having good sales, and it could of course outsell GoW.

reviniente said:

I don't find that possibility 'so unlikely as to be totally ridiculous'. Furthermore, SoT has the potential to sell digitally so masively, that, unless official statements are released, we may never know exactly how much it sold.

Edit: Corrected possiility to possibility.

So that is a coup out that doesn't matter the sales you or others can just say that digital were so big (even without any data) that it sold more than any other game right?

Azzanation said:

If games like Knack and DriveClub can sell 1 to 2 million copies than anything is possible.

Never underesitmate the power of forced bundling.

Where i am from UC4 was bundled in majority of PS4s, you could not buy a PS4 without UC4 at xmas time unless you brought a Pro. Funny how its sales went from 4m to 8m so fast. Any company can do that, MS could have done it with H5 however there happy with its $400m profit the game turned in. Thats bigger than most movies. Go find out how much money UC4 or Horizon made for PS? 

Ill wait right here. 

Neither Knack nor Driveclub were forced bundles... at the time they released there were vanilla PS4 available and the bundle with Knack and DC had the difference in price as you were paying for those games almost full.

You make assumptions that are pretty unbased on reality, at any point in PS4 time (besides the launch time where you had no inventory available) there were multiple different SKUs of PS4 to buy so no one was obligated to buy a PS4 with UC4. And considering UC previous games also sold a lot, and the game is quite well regarded you can't dismiss it's sales saying they were due to bundling.

Where the heck did you got the 400M profit on H5?

DriveClub was on the cheapest PS4 bundle, at the time of release I have never seen so many trade ins for a game at launch, yet unfortunately it still counted as sales for the game. Do you really think DC sold well, if that was the case Sony would have not shut the studio down. Rare few brought the game, the game just happens to land in the laps of PS4 owners due to the bundle deals Sony has going on. Its pretty obvious isn't it? A game that sold 2.3m and the studio had to be closed down.. It clearly didn't make Sony any money.

Knack was a launch title for an already bare bones line up for the PS4, in Japan Knack sold incredibly well because its only other AAA game it was competiting against was Killzone zone, and we all know Japanese aren't fans of the FPS genre.

A little research will one day help you Don. 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/

Do sales matter? no, profit does.



Sea of Thieves will not be this years' Horizon: Zero Dawn.

God of War wins this one rather easily.



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Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said: 

Where the heck did you got the 400M profit on H5?

 

A little research will one day help you Don. 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/

Do sales matter? no, profit does.

Nice, but the $400m figure is sales revenue, not profit. A little research indeed.

But your entire point is mute because whether you're looking at it from a sales or profit perspective PlayStation is absolutely killing it.

$1.1 Billion Operating Profit for last fiscal year, and a forecast of $1.6 Billion for this fiscal year. You can try and downplay sales all you want but your tactic of shifting to profits will do absolutely nothing when PlayStation's profits are soaring.



Barkley said:
Azzanation said:

 

A little research will one day help you Don. 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/

Do sales matter? no, profit does.

Nice, but the $400m figure is sales revenue, not profit. A little research indeed.

But your entire point is mute because whether you're looking at it from a sales or profit perspective PlayStation is absolutely killing it.

$1.1 Billion Operating Profit for last fiscal year, and a forecast of $1.6 Billion for this fiscal year. You can try and downplay sales all you want but your tactic of shifting to profits will do absolutely nothing when PlayStation's profits are soaring.

That was my point, sales revenue, profit what ever we want to call it. Its all a good thing especially $400m.

So the entire PS brand profited $1.1b and Halo 5 alone did $400m revenue? That was probably a poor example.  

Point is a game can sell 2m units and earn less to a game that sold 1m. That's my point. 



Azzanation said:
Barkley said:

Nice, but the $400m figure is sales revenue, not profit. A little research indeed.

But your entire point is mute because whether you're looking at it from a sales or profit perspective PlayStation is absolutely killing it.

$1.1 Billion Operating Profit for last fiscal year, and a forecast of $1.6 Billion for this fiscal year. You can try and downplay sales all you want but your tactic of shifting to profits will do absolutely nothing when PlayStation's profits are soaring.

That was my point, sales revenue, profit what ever we want to call it. Its all a good thing especially $400m.

No shifty tactics needed. So the entire PS brand profited $1.1b and Halo 5 alone did $400m revenue? That was probably a poor example.  

Point is a game can sell 2m units and earn less to a game that sold 1m. That's my point. 

The $400m figure includes revenue from bundled hardware, so with your claim that uncharted 4 and Horizon only sold because of bundles... Well there revenue will be far in excess of that figure then, so by your chosen metric of success they both outperformed halo 5, not the outcome you're hoping for so better find something else to switch to.

You seem to have a severe lack of understanding of your trying to suggest the $400m halo revenue paints the $1.1b PlayStation operating profit in a bad light.

Your point that a game can make more profit and sell less is valid, your insistence that uncharted 4 and Horizon didn't  profit well, or as well as another title is laughable and not backed up by anything.