I would be shocked if God of War managed to sell less
Which game will sell better? | |||
God of War | 181 | 85.38% | |
Sea of Thieves | 27 | 12.74% | |
Too close to call | 4 | 1.89% | |
Total: | 212 |
SpokenTruth said:
1. How do you know they were not. That said. What of a game that sold 15 million units? Are you going to say they were all sold at $20 each? 2. It is an assumption based on the known development and marketing budgets for other games of that scope and marketing reach. Are you suggesting development and marketing was far less? 3. You should not be extolling the virtues of profit when your premise is on revenue with no data "to back up your claim." |
I am basing it off what is a record breaking Halo game at launch.
I am sure a lot of the costs will eat up the revenue, that's what revenue is. However Halo 5 smashed Halo 4's record which made more revenue than The Avengers and Harry Potter movies at the time.. and Halo 5 was bigger again.
Halo 5 went on to sell 5m copies with a record breaking revenue boost at launch and almost double that of Halo 4's.
If you can show me another game that did similar numbers I would like to know. Halo also would have made a lot of its money due to its consistence high price and its limited bundles and lets not forget the Halo 5 merchandise and books.
Anyway I am going to bed, I need sleep. Ill be on tomorrow if I haven't been bombarded with death threat messages. Happy to discuss this another day.
Azzanation said:
DriveClub was on the cheapest PS4 bundle, at the time of release I have never seen so many trade ins for a game at launch, yet unfortunately it still counted as sales for the game. Do you really think DC sold well, if that was the case Sony would have not shut the studio down. Rare few brought the game, the game just happens to land in the laps of PS4 owners due to the bundle deals Sony has going on. Its pretty obvious isn't it? A game that sold 2.3m and the studio had to be closed down.. It clearly didn't make Sony any money. Knack was a launch title for an already bare bones line up for the PS4, in Japan Knack sold incredibly well because its only other AAA game it was competiting against was Killzone zone, and we all know Japanese aren't fans of the FPS genre. A little research will one day help you Don. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/ Do sales matter? no, profit does. |
Where did I said DC sold well? I said that the sales weren't forced bundles that people couldn't buy without.
You don't have any metric for the profits of Halo, nor for the Xbox during any quarter, you don't even know for sure how many Xbox were sold, so shut up.
Azzanation said:
That was my point, sales revenue, profit what ever we want to call it. Its all a good thing especially $400m. So the entire PS brand profited $1.1b and Halo 5 alone did $400m revenue? That was probably a poor example. Point is a game can sell 2m units and earn less to a game that sold 1m. That's my point. |
So Let's pretend Halo5 sold 5 Million at launch at full price and MS made the full retail price of it with no margin to any seller... 60x5M = 3000M... your numbers don't even match (because they counted the hw sold together to make that number) also MS do less than 40 USD of that sale (on revenue).
Azzanation said:
I am still waiting for your Sony game that eclipses that $400m? There should be heaps since UC4 and Horizon double Halo 5 sales.. |
I'll wait for you to show the profit from X1+games, or from Halo.
UC4 had about 10M sales, with average price at least 40 bucks, so 400M already matched without even adding the HW you said drove the sales because people were mandated to buy it together...
You are going to strike harder than Globally in USA this way.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Azzanation said:
I agree however that's an assumption you are making. Do we have proof? And why haven't we heard of the revenue gains UC4/Horizon made at launch? If its that high I am sure we would have heard about it. Halo is a massive franchise worth over $5b. Its a lot bigger than what we are comparing it to. |
They gave the sales numbers. Not too hard to estimate what revenue they made out of it.
I didn't make assumptions as far as Halo 5 revenues are concerned. To make $400m on game sales alone it would have required 6 million in sales which it hasn't sold to date. Its obvious that hardware is where a majority of that revenue came.
Doesn't seem like SoT has a MASS appeal to it. GOW is an established first party IP that sells millions. Going with the safe bet and say GOW easily. SoT may have the longer legs though.
PSN ID- RayCrocheron82
XBL Gamertag- RAFIE82
NNID- RAFIE82/ Friend Code: SW-6006-2580-8237
YouTube- Rafie Crocheron
The game is going to kill on PC. Sea of Theives (look at No Man's Sky except this will have legs).
fgsduilfgasuklwgefidslzfgb4yiogwefhawi4fbielat5gy240bh3e
I watched some gameplay from SoT from some popular streamers and the whole time I'm thinking how boring it looks.
Rafie said: Doesn't seem like SoT has a MASS appeal to it. GOW is an established first party IP that sells millions. Going with the safe bet and say GOW easily. SoT may have the longer legs though. |
Theres no real progression though. You cant better your character, level him up, build a better ship ect.
Its all cosmetic, I dont see it keeping player base intrested long, or selling for along time tbh.
roadkillers said: The game is going to kill on PC. Sea of Theives (look at No Man's Sky except this will have legs). |
What makes you and Rafie think it ll have long legs?
rodea_sky_soldier said: Nintendo Labo. |
as depressing as that sounds, it could happend.
Feel like a "real" game with tons of effort put into it, should beat some mini games + cardboard made for small kids.... but yeah, you could be right.