Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Gameware Stops Selling Xbox Systems in Reaction to Recent Game Pass Announcement

flashfire926 said:
Errorist76 said:

Gotta love this. Totally understandable. MS want all the money and control for themselves. And they're willing to walk over corpses for it. Again. (Just another edition of always online DRM, just with a bit more butt kissing)


MS probably won't care though. They'll just sell those things directly bundled for 50 Dollars or so, as usual.

Physical copies arent going away.

Used games arent going away.

The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away.

So how is this another edition of always online drm?

 

It's not, that's just FUD. Strange, I don't recall this type of FUD here concerning PS Now or PS+ games you get with the service.

 

Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Did anyone tell them Xbox still usesphysical copies of games? lol

It doesn't sell much in Austria so maybe they don't know. 

So they're a gaming specialty store and maybe don't know Xbone plays physical games. Then they'd obviously have much larger issues than Game Pass and will be Blockbuster'd soon enough.



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flashfire926 said:
Errorist76 said:

"The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away."

No one buying a game digitally is owning the game. You're only owning the rights to use it.

And yes, Netflix and Spotify for that matter are bad for the respective industry.

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

edit: so does that mean amazon is greedy and selfish was going over sears (and proably macy's and jcpenney's soon enough) corpse, as well as many other stores?

fyi: this is how business works.

Forever? You mean, for as long as your HDD works and the servers exist to "serve" them back to you when it happens.



AlfredoTurkey said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

edit: so does that mean amazon is greedy and selfish was going over sears (and proably macy's and jcpenney's soon enough) corpse, as well as many other stores?

fyi: this is how business works.

Forever? You mean, for as long as your HDD works and the servers exist to "serve" them back to you when it happens.

What if my console breaks, disc breaks, disc gets stolen, etc? Neither is future proof. At least if my console breaks, or HDD stops working, I can still download the game if I get a new one. If my disc breaks there is really nothing that can be done unless it's still under warranty.  



More not going to store madness. People are so lazy. Going shopping is fun. Laziness is hurting the economy.



Gamer147 said:
More not going to store madness. People are so lazy. Going shopping is fun. Laziness is hurting the economy.

You still buy CD/DVDs?  Are you a Netflix subscriber?



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AlfredoTurkey said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

edit: so does that mean amazon is greedy and selfish was going over sears (and proably macy's and jcpenney's soon enough) corpse, as well as many other stores?

fyi: this is how business works.

Forever? You mean, for as long as your HDD works and the servers exist to "serve" them back to you when it happens.well

well, you do know you can sign into another xbox and gameshare with yourself, right? 



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Errorist76 said:
jason1637 said:
Digital > Physical.

Only for game sharing and certain deals. I must admit PSN deals have been great lately. I know I'll regret going digital when I want to sell the console at the latest.

That said, if PS5 ends up being backwards compatible, which I assume it will, all will be good. 

I like digital overall for games. Only time I buy a game disk is when a game is on sale for like $20. Besides that every game is get is digital now.



Seventizz said:
Kerotan said:

It doesn't sell much in Austria so maybe they don't know. 

 

If Sony make a retailer friendly console with the ps5 and Microsoft keeps going digital they'll really push the playstation in their stores. 

Numbers and trends aren’t favoriting physical anymore.  Digital gains grow every year.  Sony risks looking old fashioned if they stress the physical medium. 

Sony have a great digital and physical offering. They sell a shit ton digitally. But they don't alienate stores like ms are now trying to do. This is nothing new. Microsoft tried to kill used game sales.. Sony saved the retailers bacon. 

LudicrousSpeed said:
flashfire926 said:

Physical copies arent going away.

Used games arent going away.

The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away.

So how is this another edition of always online drm?

 

It's not, that's just FUD. Strange, I don't recall this type of FUD here concerning PS Now or PS+ games you get with the service.

 

Kerotan said:

It doesn't sell much in Austria so maybe they don't know. 

So they're a gaming specialty store and maybe don't know Xbone plays physical games. Then they'd obviously have much larger issues than Game Pass and will be Blockbuster'd soon enough.

It was obviously a joke. 



I certainly don't blame the retailer. It does feel like they're fighting a trend they can't stop, but one cannot expect a person to sell a device that aims to make them irrelevant.

Personally, I'd be willing to pay a bit extra for physical media to persist, but Microsoft and Sony have very clearly been trending towards downloads and streaming for a while now. Wouldn't be surprised if the next consoles were primarily streaming devices at this point.



smroadkill15 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Forever? You mean, for as long as your HDD works and the servers exist to "serve" them back to you when it happens.

What if my console breaks, disc breaks, disc gets stolen, etc? Neither is future proof. At least if my console breaks, or HDD stops working, I can still download the game if I get a new one. If my disc breaks there is really nothing that can be done unless it's still under warranty.  

Correct. I dont understand why many still believe physical is better and safer. You have a much bigger chance on all of the above happening than the Digital code to stop working. 

There are literally no benefits owning physical unless you want to resell them. And if you love your games you won't want to sell them and if you still like selling your games than Game Pass actually works better for them.