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Errorist76 said:
flashfire926 said:

Physical copies arent going away.

Used games arent going away.

The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away.

So how is this another edition of always online drm?

This is paticularly ironic because in game pass you can download the game online, and keep playing it even when offline. Something not possible with playstation now.

And as a business, do you do whats best for yourself and your consumers, or some other business?

By your logic, netflix was very greedy and bad, wanted all the money for themselves, and walked over corpses for it (blockbuster, etc).

This is how retail works. You have to adapt to stay alive. 

"The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away."

No one buying a game digitally is owning the game. You're only owning the rights to use it.

And yes, Netflix and Spotify for that matter are bad for the respective industry.

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

edit: so does that mean amazon is greedy and selfish was going over sears (and proably macy's and jcpenney's soon enough) corpse, as well as many other stores?

fyi: this is how business works.

Last edited by flashfire926 - on 25 January 2018

Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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TheBraveGallade said:
DonFerrari said:

And the console makers will have to put a lot of their own stores, and they don't have the money or interest in it...

Because even Amazon and other online retailer won't be much interested in selling consoles they won't sell games for.

Remember, this is why digital console games arn't cheaper than thierphisical counterparts in the first place.

Yep, one less reason for me to even consider buying digital



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

flashfire926 said:
Errorist76 said:

"The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away."

No one buying a game digitally is owning the game. You're only owning the rights to use it.

And yes, Netflix and Spotify for that matter are bad for the respective industry.

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

I wouldn't be certain about the always



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, youre owning the rights of the game forever, which is basically owning the game.

I wouldn't be certain about the always

You have any instances where the game is stripped away from you?

Barring the shutting down of online servers, of course.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

RolStoppable said:
gergroy said:
Guess retailers hate selling me consoles... I have been digital only for years... it would drive me nuts if I had to switch out games on my switch!

Why? The console has only two worthwhile games so far.

What are the two games you are thinking of?  I would say there are at least 3.  Zelda, fire emblem warriors, and xenoblade 2.  I own some other too like MARIO kart and bomberman and some indie games as well.



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flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't be certain about the always

You have any instances where the game is stripped away from you?

Barring the shutting down of online servers, of course.

P.T. was shut down and impossible to download again. And it isn't the sole case on the world of you not being able to redownload.

Sony update on the XBR tvs will remove gameloft support so games you bought but don't have downloaded will be unplayable.

You can be banned from XBL and lose access to all your games...

The possibilities are infinite.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

gergroy said:
RolStoppable said:

Why? The console has only two worthwhile games so far.

What are the two games you are thinking of?  I would say there are at least 3.  Zelda, fire emblem warriors, and xenoblade 2.  I own some other too like MARIO kart and bomberman and some indie games as well.

I don't need to justify my opinion.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

RolStoppable said:
gergroy said:

What are the two games you are thinking of?  I would say there are at least 3.  Zelda, fire emblem warriors, and xenoblade 2.  I own some other too like MARIO kart and bomberman and some indie games as well.

I don't need to justify my opinion.

I wasn’t asking for justification, I was asking what your opinion actually was...



gergroy said:

I wasn’t asking for justification, I was asking what your opinion actually was...

That's the same thing, gergroy. You know that you won't be able to stop asking questions if I gave you an answer.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

You have any instances where the game is stripped away from you?

Barring the shutting down of online servers, of course.

P.T. was shut down and impossible to download again. And it isn't the sole case on the world of you not being able to redownload.

Sony update on the XBR tvs will remove gameloft support so games you bought but don't have downloaded will be unplayable.

You can be banned from XBL and lose access to all your games...

The possibilities are infinite.

Good thing nobody paid for P.T. And that it was a demo and not an actual game.

 

for all those things you mentioned, there are more common bad things that happen to physical copies.  They can break, get lost, or be stolen.  It’s not it is guaranteed to be around forever either.  There are pros and cons to both.