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Guess retailers hate selling me consoles... I have been digital only for years... it would drive me nuts if I had to switch out games on my switch!



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RolStoppable said:
flashfire926 said:

One retailer in Austria (a country they dont do that well in anyways) isnt going make MS rethink their strategy, not in the slightest. 

In fact, I think gameware should adapt with the times instead of being so stubborn and stuck in the 90's. Being like this will only make them burn down.

Gameware has plenty of legs to stand on. Firstly, they carry Sony and Nintendo consoles and games, and as you are aware of, both of them sell much better than Xbox. Secondly, they sell video game merchandise and board games, two categories that will always remain physical goods. Thirdly, they are a reasonably popular website for German gamers who are looking for uncut versions of games.

They are still selling Xbox games and accessories, so the only products they removed are the ones that won't make them money. So as far as adapting to the times goes, they are ahead of the curve.

Thanks for the info.

To me, the way they said they dont want to business with Microsoft made them sound stuck in the 90's.

so with the merchindise and board games, it does sound like theyve planned ahead for the digital shift. Good for them.

I also heard on resetera that theyre stopping game sales too, guess that was wrong then. I also wonder what happens if sony ups the ante with ps now and tries to do something similar, will gameware shut them out to? Probably not I would guess.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Megaoverlord12 said:
Well, then they'll just buy Xboxes from Target, Walmart, Best Buy, Toys R Us, or Amazon. I get what they're trying to do, but I think it'll be a while before this specifically takes out a large chunk of Xbox software sales.

If Game Pass takes off and Sony/Nintendo follow suit, all of those you mentioned will likely do the same. There's simply no point in stocking hardware when no one is going to buy games for it in your store. The game industry has always made its money off software.



gergroy said:
Guess retailers hate selling me consoles... I have been digital only for years... it would drive me nuts if I had to switch out games on my switch!

Why? The console has only two worthwhile games so far.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

Yep, all MS do have some backlash for them... but it was expected... and if more stores do it, Xbox presence and sales may decrease even more.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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flashfire926 said:

Thanks for the info.

To me, the way they said they dont want to business with Microsoft made them sound stuck in the 90's.

so with the merchindise and board games, it does sound like theyve planned ahead for the digital shift. Good for them.

I also heard on resetera that theyre stopping game sales too, guess that was wrong then. I also wonder what happens if sony ups the ante with ps now and tries to do something similar, will gameware shut them out to? Probably not I would guess.

Well, I am not sure if the Xbox games and accessories they still have in stock will be the last ones they sell, so whatever was posted on Resetera could still be right.

I don't think Sony will be as aggressive with PS Now as Microsoft is with their digital approach. After all, Sony's hardware business isn't in trouble like Microsoft's, so they have a lot less incentive to get rid of hardware.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

AlfredoTurkey said:
Megaoverlord12 said:
Well, then they'll just buy Xboxes from Target, Walmart, Best Buy, Toys R Us, or Amazon. I get what they're trying to do, but I think it'll be a while before this specifically takes out a large chunk of Xbox software sales.

If Game Pass takes off and Sony/Nintendo follow suit, all of those you mentioned will likely do the same. There's simply no point in stocking hardware when no one is going to buy games for it in your store. The game industry has always made its money off software.

And the console makers will have to put a lot of their own stores, and they don't have the money or interest in it...

Because even Amazon and other online retailer won't be much interested in selling consoles they won't sell games for.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

flashfire926 said:
Errorist76 said:

Gotta love this. Totally understandable. MS want all the money and control for themselves. And they're willing to walk over corpses for it. Again. (Just another edition of always online DRM, just with a bit more butt kissing)


MS probably won't care though. They'll just sell those things directly bundled for 50 Dollars or so, as usual.

Physical copies arent going away.

Used games arent going away.

The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away.

So how is this another edition of always online drm?

This is paticularly ironic because in game pass you can download the game online, and keep playing it even when offline. Something not possible with playstation now.

And as a business, do you do whats best for yourself and your consumers, or some other business?

By your logic, netflix was very greedy and bad, wanted all the money for themselves, and walked over corpses for it (blockbuster, etc).

This is how retail works. You have to adapt to stay alive. 

"The ability to outright own the game digitally isnt going away."

No one buying a game digitally is owning the game. You're only owning the rights to use it.

And yes, Netflix and Spotify for that matter are bad for the respective industry.



DonFerrari said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

If Game Pass takes off and Sony/Nintendo follow suit, all of those you mentioned will likely do the same. There's simply no point in stocking hardware when no one is going to buy games for it in your store. The game industry has always made its money off software.

And the console makers will have to put a lot of their own stores, and they don't have the money or interest in it...

Because even Amazon and other online retailer won't be much interested in selling consoles they won't sell games for.

Remember, this is why digital console games arn't cheaper than thierphisical counterparts in the first place.



RolStoppable said:
gergroy said:
Guess retailers hate selling me consoles... I have been digital only for years... it would drive me nuts if I had to switch out games on my switch!

Why? The console has only two worthwhile games so far.

I know you're just trolling, but still

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/switch/filtered