Oh snap so it does! 

Haha but yeah I did the same of course.

During the holidays:

PS4 Slim: $199 + PSVR $199 = $399
PS4 Pro: $399

So about that pricing argument...

After Black Friday PS4 was back to 299,- officially, mostly sold around 249,-. PSVR 199,- deal was over as well. Pro sold for 349,- during BF even less (349,- with 50 dollar gift card), so there were deals indeed.

As habam has already stated, during BF week the Skyrim PSVR outsold both Pro and X1X at Amazon for several days. 

Im just having a problem that you’re trying to downplay PSVR sales by comparing them to PS4 Pro sales. Compare them with the VR competitors instead. A Pro is a wise choice for everyone getting into the PS ecosystem. A PSVR is an expensive peripheral, a unique gaming system which needs dedicated games for the most part AND an existing PlayStation console, in best case even a Pro. That’s a much smaller potential field of buyers.

So the week when the PSVR was the cheapest it ever was it outsold the PS4 Pro that wasn't on sale anywhere?!? Incredible!

Do you realize how bad the optics would be if it didn't outsell the PS4 Pro at half the price, when it was being advertised and pushed as heavily as Sony pushed it during the holidays?

So let's be clear, you think if someone has $400 to spend on video game hardware, and they have two choices -The PSVR and PS4 priced at $399 and the PS4 Pro at $399, and you think the PS4/PSVR combo is a harder sell? If that's what you believe you have even less faith in PSVR than I do, and you can't possibly believe is anywhere close to mainstream.


Don't get me wrong. PSVR Sales are mediocre. But, so are PS4 Pro sales. Both products are still trying to justify their very existence, but here you are treating PSVR like it's so mainstream that it's even reasonable to consider the idea that every PS5 might come shipped with a VR headset because everyone everyone loves VR so much, everyone would be willing to pay hundreds extra for it. But today, in 2018, apparently it's unreasonable to expect the PSVR to outsell the PS4 Pro, even when there's 75 million PS4s already sold.

Vr is a shockingly lonely and isolates way too play. Also it makes me sick. Was cool as fuck whwn i first played it but yeah its just a gimmick.

VR is great. I've been playing around with it since Rift DK2. But, I haven't put a headset on in quite a while now. There are several factors that contribute to this.

1) Resolution is too low for anything except games made with that low resolution in mind. In other words, I have no interest in playing games or watching movies in "theatre mode". I'd rather just stare at my 4k TV.
2) Lack of compelling content. There are some decent VR games, and a few good ones. There are zero great games (that I'm aware of). Until there are full AAA experiences, it just isn't going to get a large percentage of my gaming time.
3)Wires - they suck
4) Comfort. All of the headsets I've put on are reasonably comfortable for short play sessions. But, I'm not interested in standing up, or even sitting upright in a desk chair for 3 or 4 hours. I own a good gaming PC. But, I play primarily on consoles, because I can chill on my lazy boy or couch while playing. I have limited opportunities to play for extended periods of time. When I get them, I want to be comfortable.

The way I see it, the first 3 can be solved soon. But, the comfort issue....that's going to be a lot more difficult. VR just isn't going to work from a lounging position. The content is going to have to be way, way better than traditional games before I'll give up my La-z-boy. I have to think that others feel the same way, at least to some degree. So, while VR is great, and I hope it continues to progress and take a larger share of my gaming time, I definitely do not think it will replace traditional gaming anytime soon.

No
VR is a fad and no one will remember it in maximum 5 years

VR is a certain type of experience. It doesn't replace traditional gaming. I would imagine if PSVR sales see growth that PS5 will support VR. But it would be an addon again.

PS will continue to give customers options. Doesn't matter what devices they sell, they will all be separate, so that you the customer, can choose to pay for what you want and get what you paid for. This way, each device can be sold for a cheaper price, and for those who don't value gaming as much or are poor, can afford a system of some sort, and for those who crave gaming and must have the newest next big thing, you'll have to pay for it. PS5 may be able to incorporate some of the hardware into the console, but the VR kit will still be separate.

No, I don't really see it happening

There could be a chance that VR will have a bigger emphasis, but it won't be VR only