It's not quite fair to group them up as one thing (which is why i didn't), if the WiiU could install from the disk it'd be less of a problem, but since it can't the system was forced to spend time pulling that compressed data from the disk.

Even ignoring the optional installs though, yes, XCX is significantly larger than most Nintendo titles because Monolith's design philosophy shares more in common with the average PS4/X1 title than Zelda. Compression will take you only so far; after a certain point you have to either shift your design and technical focus or accept your game's file size is going to grow quite rapidly.

To me both, I preffer the art style of other companies, and see nothing really so exclusive in Nintendo artstyle that other companies on making cartoony or cellshaded games.

So now are we comparing 15y difference in technology?

Nope... when you install all games there is very little difference between optional and mandatory. I have issue with people that criticize one action only depending on the one making it.

But after some years most x360 games were being a lot better when doing the install. And I do know the origin of the need of the mandatory.

I agree there is no reason to group all together... but that is what OP is doing, he is ignoring all reasons for why games would be bigger than Zelda and pretending Nintendo have some wizardly that make a game 1/20 of the size ALL other devs are to incompetent to do.

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Every single game on 360, except for Halo 3 I think, work better when installed. It wasn't "after some years", that's the reason of allowing installing on the HDD in the very first place.

BotW and Odyssey are 1 and 1a for Game of the Year.

That said though, they have almost no voice acting. And BotW has some super muddy textures.

But it didn't become common in X360 until the arcade version wasn't the most common use. It took quite some time for installing in X360 to become common from what I gauged on VGC.

Unless those guys were just bitching at Sony for having it mandatory (and most games didn't even had much of the data installed) were already installing for the added perfomance, but used the point just for console war sake.

And here we are at X1 and PS4 both having mandatory installs of 50Gb of content.

I had no issue managing a 100 catalogue with 160Gb on PS3, and even had several downloaded games from PSN+. You can keep about 10 games on the HDD at all times and most people don't really game all those at once, and most buy less than 10 on a gen

PS3 launched with a 20 or 40GB (I don't even remember anymore) and most installs didn't take the full size of the BD, I remember most being bellow 4GB at the time.

I rant all the time, and response threads are against the rules here.

Nintendo should teach Nintendo their file compression secrets.

Following the recent news of games such as BoTW having 12GB size or Splatoon 2 having 3.7GB, this will harm Nintendo Switch’s future!

Now if you look at games such as

Mario 64 = 8MB

that seems just insane: How can a game like Splatoon need 462 times more space, or a game like BoTW even need 1500 times more space than a super-massive game like Mario 64?!?!

You can clearly tell Nintendo has some tricks to make their games small and accessible. NOW GIVE THESE TRICKS TO NINTENDO!!!!

If you can control for 10 to 20 years of compression and efficiency improvements, the different demands of the time (the PS2 had no download concerns, much more disk space than most developers needed, etc), differences in the design of the average PS2 game vs Nintendo one, the storage advantages and disadvantages of PS2 disks vs Switch cartridges (e.g. Switch cartridges can read much quicker than a DVD, and if need be can install onto the internal memory, both of which allow for more compression leeway), and the different pricing incentives each medium provide (space is at a higher premium on a Switch cartridge), then sure, this would make for an interesting discussion.

Once you've controlled for these, it's also worth noting that the average Nintendo title is actually more comparable in size to 360 games than PS2 ones. Despite all of the above, PS2 games average at about 1GB to 3GB.

Damn it Arnold, i already made this joke! Get off my materiel or i'll throw your ass in mod jail.