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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - FIFA 18 on Switch accounted for 1% of all UK physical copies sold

Miyamotoo on 04 October 2017
DialgaMarine said:
This is why it's worrisome for Nintendo to still be facing the same third party issues that Wii U had. Gamers do take notice to such things and will buy accordingly. It's one thing to have lower resolution and frame rate performance, but losing crucial game features that other console versions have becomes a big issue. If it keeps up, Switch's third party situation will become the Wii U debacle all over again.

Unlikely, Wii U left without 3rd party because start selling terrible only few months after launch and it starting becoming obvious that it will fail. This first week for UK sales does not mean nothing from couple of reasons, I mean Fifa on Wii also didn't had great sales buy EA release more than 10 Fifa games on Wii.



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Miyamotoo on 04 October 2017

I know that 1% sounds terrible but that doesnt mean much and people are overreacting:

-UK is weakest European market for Nintendo if we talking about big European countries.
-Switch is only 7 months on market.
-Switch instal base is around 250-300k in UK, while PS4 has around 4.5-5m, XB1 around 4m and Xbox360 around 9m.
-With reports we have (for instance Amazon UK outsold Switch version of Fifa 18 and still isn't available and people saying they had hard time finding last week Fifa for Switch) there was definitely some kind of supply problem.
-This is only 1st week sales with some kind of suple problems on weakest European market for Nintendo, and we dont know about legs of this game.

So with everything above on mind, it's definitely too early to say that game bombed on Switch and that 3rd party will abonde Switch because of this, lol. :)



Lawlight on 04 October 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:

Yeah, I don't really believe your friend because I can see online that there are stock for the game.

We have here of forum person that said same thing (coment below), and fact is that Amazon UK sold out game last week, so it's obvious that Switch version of game is undersupplied in some way.

"Because it's under supplied as hell. Game UK - out of stock, Amazon UK - In stock on October 9, 2017. During the weekend I couldn't find it anywhere locally. I think now Argos and Tesco got some copies. "

It was not out of stock at Game when this thread was made. The only place out of stock was Amazon. Tesco, Game and Argos all had stock. And as far as I know, Argos at least never ran out.



Miyamotoo on 04 October 2017
Lawlight said:
Miyamotoo said:

We have here of forum person that said same thing (coment below), and fact is that Amazon UK sold out game last week, so it's obvious that Switch version of game is undersupplied in some way.

"Because it's under supplied as hell. Game UK - out of stock, Amazon UK - In stock on October 9, 2017. During the weekend I couldn't find it anywhere locally. I think now Argos and Tesco got some copies. "

It was not out of stock at Game when this thread was made. The only place out of stock was Amazon. Tesco, Game and Argos all had stock. And as far as I know, Argos at least never ran out.

He talked that he couldn't find anywhere, and Game actually gives only one game per customer curently. Again, people (you have 2 people here in thread) are saying they had hard time finding game last week, not currently, and fact is that Amazon still dont have stocks and they sold out everything they had.



Zuhyc on 04 October 2017

Not all that surprising, FIFA never sold well on the Wii either



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160rmf on 04 October 2017
Lawlight said:
160rmf said:

I thought Switch owners were desperately needing games for the system..... What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. I think they still are but this is a football game - will people who aren't into football go out and buy FIFA? I don't think so. A sports game would most likely sell to people who are fans of that sports genre already. And guess what FIFA fans own? PlayStations and Xboxes to play with their mates. This is not just a genre we're talking about - like platformer or fighting games. It's a specific section of the sports game genre. Honestly I can't really think of another genre like that.

So, they are being selective with the type of games that they will be desperate for? Gotcha!



 

 

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zippy on 04 October 2017

It seems to be riding high in the E shop, actually higher than Sonic Mania and Minecraft.



DonFerrari on 04 October 2017
GhaudePhaede010 said:
DonFerrari said:

Why would any company invest several hundred thousand dollars on self-sabotage? It makes much more sense to guess that they didn't expect much sales for the version seeing like there is still stock in several places.

By that logic, why would you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ship such a low number? They make money from retailer buys and not consumer buys anyway. So, if they oversell to retailers, it becomes less their issue than the retailers problem. Would that not sound like self sabotage to you? Invest all that money and then not even attempt to sell them... yes, that sounds like self sabotage to me.

By that logic they could he shipping 200k WW and be enough to break even or start a relationship with Switch and if it's sold out make a second batch of games. Makes much more sense than burn money just to say they tried.

Miyamotoo said:
I know that 1% sounds terrible but that doesnt mean much and people are overreacting:

-UK is weakest European market for Nintendo if we talking about big European countries.
-Switch is only 7 months on market.
-Switch instal base is around 250-300k in UK, while PS4 has around 4.5-5m, XB1 around 4m and Xbox360 around 9m.
-With reports we have (for instance Amazon UK outsold Switch version of Fifa 18 and still isn't available and people saying they had hard time finding last week Fifa for Switch) there was definitely some kind of supply problem.
-This is only 1st week sales with some kind of suple problems on weakest European market for Nintendo, and we dont know about legs of this game.

So with everything above on mind, it's definitely too early to say that game bombed on Switch and that 3rd party will abonde Switch because of this, lol. :)

As you saw in your own previous comment the Switch have 2.8% userbase on UK, have fewer selection of games and usually the smaller userbase have higher attach ratio to the games than the higher userbase... so Switch having 2.8% and instead of selling 3% of the copies end up at 1% is quite troublesome for future support if other regions don't do better than it.



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Mnementh on 04 October 2017
Locknuts said:
1% of Fifa sales in the UK is still over 50 million copies so that's not bad.

FIFA sells 5 billion copies in UK alone?



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Miyamotoo on 04 October 2017
DonFerrari said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

By that logic, why would you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ship such a low number? They make money from retailer buys and not consumer buys anyway. So, if they oversell to retailers, it becomes less their issue than the retailers problem. Would that not sound like self sabotage to you? Invest all that money and then not even attempt to sell them... yes, that sounds like self sabotage to me.

By that logic they could he shipping 200k WW and be enough to break even or start a relationship with Switch and if it's sold out make a second batch of games. Makes much more sense than burn money just to say they tried.

Miyamotoo said:
I know that 1% sounds terrible but that doesnt mean much and people are overreacting:

-UK is weakest European market for Nintendo if we talking about big European countries.
-Switch is only 7 months on market.
-Switch instal base is around 250-300k in UK, while PS4 has around 4.5-5m, XB1 around 4m and Xbox360 around 9m.
-With reports we have (for instance Amazon UK outsold Switch version of Fifa 18 and still isn't available and people saying they had hard time finding last week Fifa for Switch) there was definitely some kind of supply problem.
-This is only 1st week sales with some kind of suple problems on weakest European market for Nintendo, and we dont know about legs of this game.

So with everything above on mind, it's definitely too early to say that game bombed on Switch and that 3rd party will abonde Switch because of this, lol. :)

As you saw in your own previous comment the Switch have 2.8% userbase on UK, have fewer selection of games and usually the smaller userbase have higher attach ratio to the games than the higher userbase... so Switch having 2.8% and instead of selling 3% of the copies end up at 1% is quite troublesome for future support if other regions don't do better than it.

Not really, nobody (including EA) don't expect that Fifa or any 3rd party game will have some popularity (similar attach rate) on Switch compared to XB1/PS4.

Like I wrote, it's definitely too early to make any conclusions.