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Carl2291 said:

Kerotan said:

The only thing people are not considering when they bring up this point is ps4 is not a replacement for a handheld and a home console.  If the ps4 was portable aswell then this would be valid in this sense. 

Like the Switch is replacing the Wii U and the 3DS. The ps4 is replacing just the ps3. If the Switch was say just a home console then I'd primarily compare it to just the Wii U.  If the Switch was just a portable I'd compare it to the 3DS. 

Do you see what I'm saying? 

You'd be making a valid point if the Switch was replacing the 3DS. Instead, you're talking nonsense.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/242777-nintendo-says-switch-wont-replace-3ds

"3DS has a long life in front of it. We’ve already announced games that will be launching in the first couple quarters of this year. There are a number of big games coming. And in our view, the Nintendo 3DS and the Nintendo Switch are going to live side-by-side. You’re going to be meeting different price points, you’re going to be meeting different types of consumers, you’re going to have the newest, freshest content available on Nintendo Switch, you’ve got a thousand-game library available on Nintendo 3DS, plus some key new ones coming. They’re going to coexist just fine. We’ve done this before, managing two different systems.

I think there’s a sense that Nintendo Switch is a portable device. It is portable. But at its heart, it’s a home console that you can take with you on the go."

https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/31/14465360/nintendo-switch-wont-replace-nintendo-3ds

"Our intention has always been to have Nintendo 3DS and 2DS side by side with the Switch, It's great that we have even more momentum [with the 3DS] than we anticipated, but it's always been our position to have these two products side by side."

"We have heard speculation that Nintendo Switch will replace the Nintendo 3DS, as both are game systems that can be played outside the home, but Nintendo 3DS has unique characteristics that differ from those of Nintendo Switch. Furthermore, the price points and play experiences offered by the two systems are different and we do not see them as being in direct competition. We plan to continue both businesses separately and in parallel."

well, at least at the moment, where the switch is reletivly new and expensive and the 3ds getting its last killer games.

though, the switch is actually a combo of wiiU/3ds/vits really.



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Carl2291 said:

Kerotan said:

 The only thing people are not considering when they bring up this point is ps4 is not a replacement for a handheld and a home console.  If the ps4 was portable aswell then this would be valid in this sense. 

Like the Switch is replacing the Wii U and the 3DS. The ps4 is replacing just the ps3. If the Switch was say just a home console then I'd primarily compare it to just the Wii U.  If the Switch was just a portable I'd compare it to the 3DS. 

Do you see what I'm saying? 

You'd be making a valid point if the Switch was replacing the 3DS. Instead, you're talking nonsense.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/242777-nintendo-says-switch-wont-replace-3ds

"3DS has a long life in front of it. We’ve already announced games that will be launching in the first couple quarters of this year. There are a number of big games coming. And in our view, the Nintendo 3DS and the Nintendo Switch are going to live side-by-side. You’re going to be meeting different price points, you’re going to be meeting different types of consumers, you’re going to have the newest, freshest content available on Nintendo Switch, you’ve got a thousand-game library available on Nintendo 3DS, plus some key new ones coming. They’re going to coexist just fine. We’ve done this before, managing two different systems.

I think there’s a sense that Nintendo Switch is a portable device. It is portable. But at its heart, it’s a home console that you can take with you on the go."

https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/31/14465360/nintendo-switch-wont-replace-nintendo-3ds

"Our intention has always been to have Nintendo 3DS and 2DS side by side with the Switch, It's great that we have even more momentum [with the 3DS] than we anticipated, but it's always been our position to have these two products side by side."

"We have heard speculation that Nintendo Switch will replace the Nintendo 3DS, as both are game systems that can be played outside the home, but Nintendo 3DS has unique characteristics that differ from those of Nintendo Switch. Furthermore, the price points and play experiences offered by the two systems are different and we do not see them as being in direct competition. We plan to continue both businesses separately and in parallel."

Funny you say I'm taking nonsense.  Not only is that insulting to me but it's also insulting to many others who also believe Switch to be a 3DS successor. 

 

Read over on gaf and their main Nintendo sales guy (Chris1964) has regularly explained how Nintendo's primary developers have moved focus to the Switch. Actually if you have an account post on the gaf thread and ask if the Switch is a 3DS successor or not. They'll explain very well to you why it is.  

 

For a console to get support when their new generation has arrived is nothing new.  Sure look at ps2 and ps3. Now whether Nintendo intended to have a seperate handheld only succesor or not,  they probably changed their mind after seeing the success of the switch. 

 

Edit: succesor would be my preferred term to use instead of replace.  because replace suggests the other console just ends but we've seen with many successors in the past (Switch,  vita,  PS3, ps4, XB1) that the consoles they are succeeding don't actually get replaced for a few years after launch. 



Kerotan said:

Funny you say I'm taking nonsense.  Not only is that insulting to me but it's also insulting to many others who also believe Switch to be a 3DS successor. 

Read over on gaf and their main Nintendo sales guy (Chris1964) has regularly explained how Nintendo's primary developers have moved focus to the Switch. Actually if you have an account post on the gaf thread and ask if the Switch is a 3DS successor or not. They'll explain very well to you why it is.  

For a console to get support when their new generation has arrived is nothing new.  Sure look at ps2 and ps3. Now whether Nintendo intended to have a seperate handheld only succesor or not,  they probably changed their mind after seeing the success of the switch. 

Edit: succesor would be my preferred term to use instead of replace.  because replace suggests the other console just ends but we've seen with many successors in the past (Switch,  vita,  PS3, ps4, XB1) that the consoles they are succeeding don't actually get replaced for a few years after launch. 

I don't care if you find it insulting and I don't care about whoever else is saying it on here or on GAF, because it's nonsense. It's foolish. It's nonsense until someone high up at Nintendo directly states that the Switch is replacing or is the successor to the 3DS. When you have both Reggie Fils-Aime and Tatsumi Kimishima directly saying you're wrong on a Nintendo product, it's time to pack up your nonsense and admit that you're wrong.

If not, don't be surprised to see people mocking you and laughing at you.



                            

I dont know guys..... I rather listen to these forum users than Nintendo themselves..... lol xD



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Ka-pi96 said:

This leads to the obvious question... when the 3DS doesn't get another successor/replacement (because the Switch is already its successor), it's fair to mock/laugh at those that claimed the Switch wasn't a 3DS successor then?

It's always fair to bring up people saying stupid things in the past and laughing at them for it.



                            

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Ka-pi96 said:
Carl2291 said:

I don't care if you find it insulting and I don't care about whoever else is saying it on here or on GAF, because it's nonsense. It's foolish. It's nonsense until someone high up at Nintendo directly states that the Switch is replacing or is the successor to the 3DS. When you have both Reggie Fils-Aime and Tatsumi Kimishima directly saying you're wrong on a Nintendo product, it's time to pack up your nonsense and admit that you're wrong.

If not, don't be surprised to see people mocking you and laughing at you.

This leads to the obvious question... when the 3DS doesn't get another successor/replacement (because the Switch is already its successor), it's fair to mock/laugh at those that claimed the Switch wasn't a 3DS successor then?

xDDDDDD

 

Haha yeah it will be funny in a few years when I'm proven right despite the rude mocking of others.  

 

I don't know why you'd take PR as Gospel.  It's not advisable to jump behind the PR of a company. It's very often not fact. 

 



If anything switch is the successor of WiiU+Vita so switch only needs to sell 9mil in japan in order to be a success.

I dont want to hear any excuses to this statement



tbone51 said:
If anything switch is the successor of WiiU+Vita so switch only needs to sell 9mil in japan in order to be a success.

I dont want to hear any excuses to this statement

It's a succesor to the vita aswell?!! 

 

So now it needs to target matching vita + 3DS + Wii U?  

Anything else we should add in lol 

 

Well this argument actually reminds me of the downplaying by some of the ps4 in Japan.  You know the one where they say ps4 beating the ps3 isn't impressive because there is less competition.  

 

Will these same people apply this logic to switch?  Less competition today from both other handhelds and consoles.  And no other hybrid to compete with.  

 

Somehow I doubt those using this logic to be negative about ps4 won't apply the same standard to switch. 



Kerotan said:
tbone51 said:
If anything switch is the successor of WiiU+Vita so switch only needs to sell 9mil in japan in order to be a success.

I dont want to hear any excuses to this statement

It's a succesor to the vita aswell?!! 

 

So now it needs to target matching vita + 3DS + Wii U?  

Anything else we should add in lol 

 

Well this argument actually reminds me of the downplaying by some of the ps4 in Japan.  You know the one where they say ps4 beating the ps3 isn't impressive because there is less competition.  

 

Will these same people apply this logic to switch?  Less competition today from both other handhelds and consoles.  And no other hybrid to compete with.  

 

Somehow I doubt those using this logic to be negative about ps4 won't apply the same standard to switch. 

I will say this because i dont think any1 has brought this up now that i think about it... Isnt it unfair to compare switch to both 3ds+wiiu due to the fact that the library is now combined and thus wont have both system sellers counting in each others library?

 

3ds has 1 of each mk, 3d mario, 2d mario, ssb, kirby, etc.....

 

So does wiiu. Switch wont have 2 of each so shouldn't we lower the goals for the switch because of it? Not to mention the sku factor compared to switch agaisnt 3ds (like vita has 3 and ps4 has 3 yet switch might only have 2?)



I have  2 3DS and 1 Wii U = 3
I have 1 Switch =1

See the difference?



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