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Forums - Sports - The NFL Thread 2017: Philadelphia Eagles Win Super Bowl LII

 

Who will win Super Bowl LII?

New England Patriots 7 31.82%
 
Pittsburgh Steelers 1 4.55%
 
Jacksonville Jaguars 3 13.64%
 
Kansas City Chiefs 0 0%
 
Philadelphia Eagles 5 22.73%
 
Minnesota Vikings 3 13.64%
 
Los Angeles Rams 0 0%
 
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
 
Other 1 4.55%
 
Scoreboard 2 9.09%
 
Total:22
NE-TB  1 NYJ-CLE  1 CAR-DET  2 SF-IND  2
TEN-MIA  1 BUF-CIN  2 LAC-NYG  2 JAX-PIT  2
ARI-PHI  2 SEA-LAR  2 BAL-OAK  2 GB-DAL  2
KC-HOU  1 BYE   BYE   MIN-CHI  1 by 7

That's a lot of 2's.



                            

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NE-TB 1 NYJ-CLE 1 CAR-DET 2 SF-IND 2
TEN-MIA 1 BUF-CIN 2 LAC-NYG 2 JAX-PIT 2
ARI-PHI 2 SEA-LAR 1 BAL-OAK 2 GB-DAL 2
KC-HOU 1 BYE   BYE   MIN-CHI 1 by 3


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RolStoppable said:
MTZehvor said:

The guy's put up 4.2 points for the entire season.

Forget waiting for him to be put on waivers; I can pick up a more promising TE from the free agent pool if I really want to right now.

Yeah, right now. Because Eifert is injured.

Your attitude is perplexing, because you are the guy who traded to get David Johnson on his roster, a player who has barely scored any fantasy points this season and has been put on injured reserve. Why would you do this? Oh right, because you are banking on Johnson putting up points once he is healthy again. That's based on his fantasy points from last season and the role he plays in Arizona's offense.

But somehow the above can't be applied to Eifert who has been one of the best TEs in the league when it comes to TD potential because he is Dalton's favorite target in the redzone. There aren't many TEs in the league of whom you can confidently say that they have a good chance to score a TD in any given week.

Please provide a list of TEs from the current free agent pool that are more promising than Eifert.

The above cannot be applied to Eifert, for a couple reasons.

First off, trading an active player (or even giving up a slot for an active player) in exchange for an injured player is always a risk. In the case of David Johnson, it's a risk that may or may not end up being worth it, because Johnson was the top RB in the league last year. In the case of Tyler Eifert, there's no reason to believe it will be worth it, for a couple of reasons. First, the guy averages just barely over seven games played per season over the last three years; he's quickly becoming a notable injury risk after suffering some severe elbow damage in 2014 and was placed on IR in 2016 to go along with this. Secondly, he simply hasn't put up the production when healthy to be worth both the risk and the games he'd have to sit now. 2015, the last year where he played 8 or more games, he averaged 8.67 points, which is decent, but hardly worth the risk. He's put up a combined 4.2 points in the two games he's been healthy this year.

You'd be better off going with someone like Luke Wilson or Vernon Davis, who don't share the same injury concerns and on average put up comparable numbers.



Snoopy said:
RolStoppable said:

Noble is rooting for the Packers now, Snoopy. Arkaign is a no-show this year. You are the only Cowboys fan left. The other rats have already left the sinking ship.

Have you not seen Aaron Rodgers face? He is a rat lol.

You guys lose an awful lot in the playoffs to a rat, then.



RolStoppable said:
MTZehvor said:

The guy's put up 4.2 points for the entire season.

Forget waiting for him to be put on waivers; I can pick up a more promising TE from the free agent pool if I really want to right now.

Yeah, right now. Because Eifert is injured.

Your attitude is perplexing, because you are the guy who traded to get David Johnson on his roster, a player who has barely scored any fantasy points this season and has been put on injured reserve. Why would you do this? Oh right, because you are banking on Johnson putting up points once he is healthy again. That's based on his fantasy points from last season and the role he plays in Arizona's offense.

But somehow the above can't be applied to Eifert who has been one of the best TEs in the league when it comes to TD potential because he is Dalton's favorite target in the redzone. There aren't many TEs in the league of whom you can confidently say that they have a good chance to score a TD in any given week.

Please provide a list of TEs from the current free agent pool that are more promising than Eifert.

Eifert is always injured. He's had like what.....1 productive season? 

Look, if you have so much faith in him, here's what you do....trade Kelce and someone else for whoever you wanna target and their lesser/meh TE, and then when/if Eifert is healthy, your team will be all the better for it. 



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RolStoppable said:
NE-TB 1 NYJ-CLE 1 CAR-DET 2 SF-IND 1
TEN-MIA 1 BUF-CIN 1 LAC-NYG 2 JAX-PIT 2
ARI-PHI 2 SEA-LAR 2 BAL-OAK 2 GB-DAL 1
KC-HOU 1 BYE   BYE   MIN-CHI 1 by 3


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RolStoppable said:
Angelus said:

Eifert is always injured. He's had like what.....1 productive season? 

Look, if you have so much faith in him, here's what you do....trade Kelce and someone else for whoever you wanna target and their lesser/meh TE, and then when/if Eifert is healthy, your team will be all the better for it. 

Yeah, right. You guys really want Eifert for dirt cheap and now you also want Kelce.

If I have faith in Eifert (and I have), then the logical thing for me to do is to keep him as my backup for Kelce because Kansas City has a bye week just like every other team.

If you have 2 guys who you think both have that much value, but you can only ever play one at the position, then having both is a total waste. A one week bye change isn't maximising the potential strength of your team. You're smart enough to know that, which is why you wanna trade Eifert in the first place.



NE-TB 1
NYJ-CLE 1
CAR-DET 2
SF-IND 2
TEN-MIA 2
BUF-CIN 1
LAC-NYG 2
JAX-PIT 2
ARI-PHI 2
SEA-LAR 1
BAL-OAK 2
GB-DAL 1
KC-HOU 1
BYE
BYE
MIN-CHI 1 by 3


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RolStoppable said:
Angelus said:

If you have 2 guys who you think both have that much value, but you can only ever play one at the position, then having both is a total waste. A one week bye change isn't maximising the potential strength of your team. You're smart enough to know that, which is why you wanna trade Eifert in the first place.

It's not a waste in a 12-team-league where you can't fill your roster with good players to begin with. My starting lineups have been pretty much the same every week and there are at most two players on the bench that I seriously consider to swap in. I basically have three spots on the bench at any given time that can't be maximized to anything, so keeping Eifert isn't going to hurt my team.

Since Kelce is so good at TE that anyone else I could have at TE is most likely not going to get more than the one start during Kelce's bye week, I don't need Eifert that much. This isn't like the Rodgers + Brady situation I had last year where both were about equally good options to start at QB, so I didn't want to trade either one of them. I want to trade Eifert because I could need more depth at RB, especially this week because I will be without Montgomery.

I am fine with keeping Eifert because he isn't hurting my roster. What annoys me is the attitude of you guys that Eifert is a complete waste of a roster spot, making it seem like he's a completely worthless player.

He's not worthless, just not near the worth you think he has. Would I pick him up off waivers? Probably



So, will people finally stop talking about how Newton is trash?