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Forums - Sales - Global Weekly, 29th April 2017 - Hardware

Mnementh said:
chapset said:
The circle of vgchartz
Big Nintendo game launch followed by big Nintendo console sales followed by people acting like that particular week number will be the standard for the rest of the gen followed by next week drop(or adjustment) and back to depression (or supply issues) until the next big game.

What is the depressing baseline? 200K per week?

200K is great number. I agree...



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tak13 said:
Qwark said:

Did they forget the WII U sold like crap. Plenty of Switch owners never played on the Wii U unlike many PS4 owners that did own a PS3. Pretty much every Wii port will do well on Switch because the originas wheren't played by many. 

Wrong verbiage!

 

8.31m Mario kart 8 owners aren't few...

So, weren't played by as much as people it would have been played if wii u had  sold way more...

Mario Kart is a series which can easily do double or even four times as much as 8.31 million units. If the Switch manages to sell at PS4 levels for at leaSt four years a Mario Kart title will at least sell 20 million units. So even though 8 million itself isn't few for a Mario Kart it kinda is. If a GTA title would only sell 8 million units on a PS console the same installment will undoubtedly have more impact on the next gen. If we look at attachment rate Mario Kart 8 had over 50% on WII U. By March 2018 the Switch will already surpass the total Wii U userbase. Mario Kart 8 will probably sell as good as a regular Mario Kart title since it will be a new title for a huge part of the userbase of the Switch which didn't have a Wii U. The PS4 is largely bought by people who already owned a PS3 so ports won't have as much of an impact as Wii U ports will have for Switch.



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Mnementh said:
chapset said:
The circle of vgchartz
Big Nintendo game launch followed by big Nintendo console sales followed by people acting like that particular week number will be the standard for the rest of the gen followed by next week drop(or adjustment) and back to depression (or supply issues) until the next big game.

What is the depressing baseline? 200K per week?

sub 100k



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chapset said:
Mnementh said:

What is the depressing baseline? 200K per week?

sub 100k

Well, maybe, but so far the Switch never dipped below 200K. And it was all supply constraints, because even without Mario Kart the sales bounced higher again. Meaning the sales going as low as 200K was not because demand was that low, it was because supply was that low. Talking about a sub 100K baseline is just speculation, I could as well speculate the demand for the Switch is 400K per week, but cannot materialize because the supply isn't there. So can we start talk about depressing baselines and the Nintendo cycle then the sales actually settle and we see the true momentum? And so far talking about any baseline below 200K (the lowest we have seen so far) sounds like crazytalk.



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JWeinCom said:
p0isonparadise said:

But the PS4 is at it's peak, currently. The fact that the Switch is going toe to toe with it while also having stock issues is impressive.

True.  I probably didn't phrase that right.  I think the fact that the Switch is new is the more relevant part of the equation.  If the XBone came out this March (assuming it evolved with the technology market) I'm pretty sure it would have outsold PS4 at least a week or two.

Well, we can see when the Scorpio releases.

tak13 said:
Qwark said:

Did they forget the WII U sold like crap. Plenty of Switch owners never played on the Wii U unlike many PS4 owners that did own a PS3. Pretty much every Wii port will do well on Switch because the originas wheren't played by many. 

Wrong verbiage!

 

8.31m Mario kart 8 owners aren't few...

So, weren't played by as much as people it would have been played if wii u had  sold way more...

Mario Kart 7, which is vastely inferior to Mario Kart 8, let alone deluxe sold somelike like 33 million or so copies. So there are at least 25 million people who never got to play Mario Kart 8. I would say that is MANY.



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irstupid said:
Mario Kart 7, which is vastely inferior to Mario Kart 8, let alone deluxe sold somelike like 33 million or so copies. So there are at least 25 million people who never got to play Mario Kart 8. I would say that is MANY.

MKWii sold that many, not MK7.



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Excited to see the numbers this holiday season.

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RolStoppable said:

That's the spirit, Louie.

At a time when the majority still doubts that Switch can beat the 3DS in lifetime sales, the goal shouldn't be to match the Wii or beat the PS4. Let's aim for the DS and at that point it's only a small step for Switch to become the best-selling video game console of all time. If Nintendo delivers on the software front, they can do it. Oh, and we need left Joy-Cons with proper d-pads.

From Nintendo's perspective, they have to be happy with a system launching at essentially the same price as its predecessor and outperforming it. 

Isn't that the ultimate goal here: growth?



RolStoppable said:
Insidb said:

From Nintendo's perspective, they have to be happy with a system launching at essentially the same price as its predecessor and outperforming it. 

Isn't that the ultimate goal here: growth?

Growth and profits.

Kimishima said that Nintendo wants Switch to reach Wii numbers, but that doesn't mean that Wii numbers are the upper limit. They are the minimum that Nintendo wants to do.

I agree; my assumption was that they were selling at a comparable profit: Nintendo has been pretty good about achieving that.

Wii numbers are the actual target? That's aiming insanely high, because I don't think the market has nearly the footprint it once did. With the prevalence of tablets, smartphones, etc., it seems wise to expect contraction.



Insidb said:
RolStoppable said:

Growth and profits.

Kimishima said that Nintendo wants Switch to reach Wii numbers, but that doesn't mean that Wii numbers are the upper limit. They are the minimum that Nintendo wants to do.

I agree; my assumption was that they were selling at a comparable profit: Nintendo has been pretty good about achieving that.

Wii numbers are the actual target? That's aiming insanely high, because I don't think the market has nearly the footprint it once did. With the prevalence of tablets, smartphones, etc., it seems wise to expect contraction.

Wii+DS did 255 million so Switch selling 100 million is a sizeable contraction.

On the other hand, 3DS+Wii U will have sold over 85 million when all is said and done and both of those systems heavily flawed conpared to Switch so a 15% increase isnt out of the question.



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