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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Weekly, 29th April 2017 - Hardware

RolStoppable said:

Switch isn't the same gen as Wii U and 3DS. Thankfully, I am not like you. A console with the sales trajectory of Switch isn't going to slow down anytime soon, that's why it can already be safely called a success.

Porn is not the same as video games. Rapid growth doesn't apply to an estimated average of 30k units sold per week in Q1 2017; I hope you realize that that constitutes Wii U sales pace. Adding other VR headsets doesn't make it much better. As for Pokémon Go, it's not successful because of AR; the premise is to go out and catch Pokémon, so the technology that is behind the success is GPS. If you removed AR from Pokémon Go, it would still be successful; but you can't say the same for GPS.

You're not at all concerned about mobile garbage infiltrating our hobby? I'm staying away from NS predictions, until Nintendo catches up to the consumers: the disparity between the Wii and WiiU and the rapid rise and fall of Wii sales. It's very reminiscent of the PS4 launch, which took a while to settle at a steady number. If anyone isn't calling the NS a "success," they simply don't want to. 

Was the WiiU the first videogame console? It's a little apples and oranges to compare the current paradigms to the newer ones. This era represents the first real foray into the space, and they are on par with the premiere videogame company's last console (but the WiiU is now actually doing 3K a week). I think doing half of the XI's and 3DS' sales is an impressive start. 

Pokemon Go is successful becuase of AR, as the mobs running to the parks show. People were throwing their AR pokeballs at Pokemon, because it was novel. It mimicked the "actual" experience, which is why it was so exciting. If it was "go use your phone there, because we said that standing there is special," most people would have found it boring or stupid. The value proposition was the AR experience.



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RolStoppable said:

Why should I be concerned when anything that resembles mobile garbage has demonstrated that it has no staying power in the console realm?

I have no idea what you are trying to get at in the middle portion.

If Pokémon Go had used normal graphics instead of AR, people would have liked the game just as much. The hunting process is the big appeal of the game, not the animation. The mobs were running to the parks because the developers told people that a certain place is special; people weren't running there to experience AR. The appeal of the main series isn't animation either.

I don't think it's coming into the realm, just eating up market share. Of the Big 3, Nintendo is best-positioned to weather this, because it's the least-focused on multiplat, mainstream games.

For a new market pioneer, those sales are impressive. They're not earth-shattering, like PS4/Switch, but they're impressive.

I see what you're saying here, but I know tons of traditionally non-gamers who were saying, "Look; it's right there!" "Normal graphics" would just be Pokemon...and that "main series" has come nowhere near sniffing the 650M downloads of Pokemon Go. Pokemon Red/Blue leads at a relatively modest ~31M sales. The target audiences were fundamentally different, hence the phenomenal success. I wonder what percentage of owners of Pokemon on consoles dowloaded Go; that would be interesting to know.