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Louie said:
Soundwave said:

You can have a break out hit system without women. 

Playstation 4 is going to surpass the Wii easily. Heck, if you really look at it, the Playstation 3 even nearly matched the Wii despite a disastrous start at $600 that basically nullified its first year on market. 

Switch is also already proving it, it is outpacing any other Nintendo system in sales. It has appeal to core gamers that Nintendo hasn't had in decades. It looks cool and it's relatively high end for a portable device. 

Switch is very different from the Wii and will continue to be throughout it's lifespan. And that's OK. This notion that Wii is the only way to ever sell anything with a Nintendo logo on it is simply not true. We are seeing a Nintendo system where Just Dance sells like shit and 1,2 Switch is not really breaking out at all as a big hit still breaking records. 

I don't think the PS4 is a breakout hit system to be honest. It's nowhere near the level of DS and Wii sales during gen 7. The DS regularly sold 500k+ units per week and shipped around 30m units two years in a row. So I agree with you that the Switch can be successful without women but to really become a massive seller like the DS it needs women on board, too. 

(And it's not like only men buy Playstation consoles.)

Well you're mistaken in that case then. 

PS4 is selling on par with the PS2, which destroyed the Wii and eclipsed even the DS also in sales, and has been selling on par for 4 years now. 

That just goes to show, don't get blinded by razzle/dazzle hype. Slow and steady can win the race too. The Wii is not even one of the 3 best selling platforms in gaming. Lets remember that. 

And I'm sure yes, men aren't the only ones buy PS4s, but they certainly are the driving force. Just as we've seen on Switch thus far. It's not women that are buying it for 1,2 Switch and Just Dance driving hardware adoption at all, Switch is very different from the Wii, maybe we ought to embrace that. 

Switch honestly may have a shot to do things the Wii could not come close to doing, like establishing a decent bedrock for good sales for more traditional gaming genres. Wii's success didn't mean a whole lot in terms of library support, since all developers saw was Wii Sports/Fit driving system sales and then all we got out of it were shitty mini-game collections for support or stupid motion-gimmick spin-offs (ie: Soul Calibur Legends, RE light gun shooters, etc.) and fitness games for fat people (whoopity doo). 

Maybe Switch can do better. 



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Soundwave said:
Louie said:

 

Well you're mistaken in that case then. 

PS4 is selling on par with the PS2, which destroyed the Wii and eclipsed even the DS also in sales, and has been selling on par for 4 years now. 

That just goes to show, don't get blinded by razzle/dazzle hype. Slow and steady can win the race too. The Wii is not even one of the 3 best selling platforms in gaming. Lets remember that. 

And I'm sure yes, men aren't the only ones buy PS4s, but they certainly are the driving force. Just as we've seen on Switch thus far. It's not women that are buying it for 1,2 Switch and Just Dance driving hardware adoption at all, Switch is very different from the Wii, maybe we ought to embrace that. 

Er, no, I'm not mistaken. Slow and steady is cool but it's not the same as selling 30m units in a year. We're just talking about two different things (LTD sales vs. yearly sales). :P Or put another way: What's so bad about catering to men and women? 

(Will go to bed now and answer tomorrow if you quote me. My girlfriend is getting angry at me for staring at my notebook haha.)



Louie said:
Soundwave said:

Well you're mistaken in that case then. 

PS4 is selling on par with the PS2, which destroyed the Wii and eclipsed even the DS also in sales, and has been selling on par for 4 years now. 

That just goes to show, don't get blinded by razzle/dazzle hype. Slow and steady can win the race too. The Wii is not even one of the 3 best selling platforms in gaming. Lets remember that. 

And I'm sure yes, men aren't the only ones buy PS4s, but they certainly are the driving force. Just as we've seen on Switch thus far. It's not women that are buying it for 1,2 Switch and Just Dance driving hardware adoption at all, Switch is very different from the Wii, maybe we ought to embrace that. 

Er, no, I'm not mistaken. Slow and steady is cool but it's not the same as selling 30m units in a year. We're just talking about two different things (LTD sales vs. yearly sales). :P Or put another way: What's so bad about catering to men and women? 

(Will go to bed now and answer tomorrow if you quote me. My girlfriend is getting angry at me for staring at my notebook haha.)

I've answered why in other threads, so I'm not going to go deep into it, but fundamentally I think a lot of people here don't understand the female demographics nor do they understand the impact of the smartphone on said demographic. And they also think smartphones are just some minor blip on the radar. 

But I will say this -- even Mr. Miyamoto has said he cannot get his wife to play Nintendo console games, he brings them home, but she doesn't play them. But she will play smartphone games. 

Even Mr. Miyamoto can't even win this arguement, good luck to the rest of you. Too many people are very naive on this board about smartphone's impact on the gaming sector, they don't understand how much has changed. Hell, smartphones will soon be a bigger industry than console gaming, but's not not neccessarily console gaming shrinking, it's simply a huge other industry that's been created on top of consoles. But take a wild guess which demographics that industry is taking from, because it's not dogs & cats. And people are still buying PS4s/XBoxes/Switches (mainly men), so it's not from that audience. So who could be left? Well if you actually do research on who plays smartphone games, it's actually majority female to boot, they are more than half the smartphone gaming audience. That's incredible. 



Soundwave said:
Louie said:

I don't think the PS4 is a breakout hit system to be honest. It's nowhere near the level of DS and Wii sales during gen 7. The DS regularly sold 500k+ units per week and shipped around 30m units two years in a row. So I agree with you that the Switch can be successful without women but to really become a massive seller like the DS it needs women on board, too. 

(And it's not like only men buy Playstation consoles.)

Well you're mistaken in that case then. 

PS4 is selling on par with the PS2, which destroyed the Wii and eclipsed even the DS also in sales, and has been selling on par for 4 years now. 

That just goes to show, don't get blinded by razzle/dazzle hype. Slow and steady can win the race too. The Wii is not even one of the 3 best selling platforms in gaming. Lets remember that. 

And I'm sure yes, men aren't the only ones buy PS4s, but they certainly are the driving force. Just as we've seen on Switch thus far. It's not women that are buying it for 1,2 Switch and Just Dance driving hardware adoption at all, Switch is very different from the Wii, maybe we ought to embrace that. 

Switch honestly may have a shot to do things the Wii could not come close to doing, like establishing a decent bedrock for good sales for more traditional gaming genres. Wii's success didn't mean a whole lot in terms of library support, since all developers saw was Wii Sports/Fit driving system sales and then all we got out of it were shitty mini-game collections for support or stupid motion-gimmick spin-offs (ie: Soul Calibur Legends, RE light gun shooters, etc.) and fitness games for fat people (whoopity doo). 

Maybe Switch can do better. 

The PS2 sold over 40 million units after the PS3 came out. There's literally no way that the PS4 is going to match that, especially since it's already hit its peak.



Wii should wiin handily, imo. Insane to make Switch predictions that soon, anyway.



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StarDoor said:
Soundwave said:

Well you're mistaken in that case then. 

PS4 is selling on par with the PS2, which destroyed the Wii and eclipsed even the DS also in sales, and has been selling on par for 4 years now. 

That just goes to show, don't get blinded by razzle/dazzle hype. Slow and steady can win the race too. The Wii is not even one of the 3 best selling platforms in gaming. Lets remember that. 

And I'm sure yes, men aren't the only ones buy PS4s, but they certainly are the driving force. Just as we've seen on Switch thus far. It's not women that are buying it for 1,2 Switch and Just Dance driving hardware adoption at all, Switch is very different from the Wii, maybe we ought to embrace that. 

Switch honestly may have a shot to do things the Wii could not come close to doing, like establishing a decent bedrock for good sales for more traditional gaming genres. Wii's success didn't mean a whole lot in terms of library support, since all developers saw was Wii Sports/Fit driving system sales and then all we got out of it were shitty mini-game collections for support or stupid motion-gimmick spin-offs (ie: Soul Calibur Legends, RE light gun shooters, etc.) and fitness games for fat people (whoopity doo). 

Maybe Switch can do better. 

The PS2 sold over 40 million units after the PS3 came out. There's literally no way that the PS4 is going to match that, especially since it's already hit its peak.

Well I mean first we don't know when Sony would discontinue a PS4, they could make them for another 8 years for all we know. 

Secondly, regardless of that PS4 is going to topple Wii's LTD easily either way. It will be approaching 85 million a year from now. 



Switch will rival the PS2/DS, not the Wii.



Wii, it won't even be close.

Even if the Switch is the next handheld.



I still think the wii will win, tho the switch certainly has potential to beat it.



                                                                                     

Obviously the Wii. Switch just doesn't have staying power. I just don't see the mainstream buzz like with Wii.



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