I want mine already! Everytime you start playing the Switch it's bound to pop up a beautiful girl right near you. =D
Nuvendil said:
What? The Wii U had Wii Sports! Wii Sports Club launched in November, 2013. And no one cared. No one rushed out to buy it. No one saw it on shelves and freaked out. It has sold less than half a million copies to date retail, Bayonetta 2 tops that and it's a niche Platinum game. The Wii-game brand is practically dead. The fact you didn't even remember Wii Sports Club and that it sold so poorly is proof of my point that it has no pull whatsoever with the current market. Now yes, Wii U's marketing was a disaster, said that myself countless times. But the Wii brand was severely damaged well before then. By 2012, many associated the word Wii with motion controlled gimmickery. And Wii Sports was instrumental to that: it firmly tied the Wii to motion controls to almost the exclusion of all else. When motion controls fell out of fashion and the audience that still cared left, the Wii brand's strength crumbled away. The Wii U had an uphill battle from day one. |
You may be right, but it's telling when you still have customers, years later, who don't even know the Wii U actually exists or are confused with what it can do and why it's separate from the Wii.
curl-6 said:
Pushing a game like this actively harms Switch's image, because people might start to see the system itself as gimmicky and lame by association. Thankfully it isn't bundled, so hopefully it flops. |
One game cant harm Switchs image and presented like "gimmicky and lame" espacily when we know that actualy key title for Switch is Zelda BotW and thats game that Nintendo is pushing hardest.
1, 2, Switch is just one game and its aiming at more casuals and ex Wii owners crowd.
Kai_Mao said:
You may be right, but it's telling when you still have customers, years later, who don't even know the Wii U actually exists or are confused with what it can do and why it's separate from the Wii. |
Oh I didn't say the marketing wasn't really bad cause it was really bad. But it did have its moments. 2014 and 2015 had some decent efforts. Not nearly enough mind. But if a product has a really strong brand behind it, then it can grab some of its own sales. Good little example is comparing Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze to Bayonetta 2. Bayonetta 2 had a decent marketing campaign all things considered. DK had none. Like I don't remember seeing or hearing about it anywhere. Yet it sold better in the end cause it has the superior brand power. And the Wii was famous for that in 2007 to 2009 and early 2010. Everyone talked about how it and everything with the Wii name sold itself. Well that certainly isn't the case now. Wii U sold miserably and Wii Sports - once the mightiest exclusive IP in all of console gaming - can't even muster a paltry half mil at retail. Mrketing or no, a franchise going from tens of millions to less than half a million is a sign of catastrophic brand decay.
| Nuvendil said: What? The Wii U had Wii Sports! Wii Sports Club launched in November, 2013. And no one cared. No one rushed out to buy it. No one saw it on shelves and freaked out. It has sold less than half a million copies to date retail, Bayonetta 2 tops that and it's a niche Platinum game. The Wii-game brand is practically dead. The fact you didn't even remember Wii Sports Club and that it sold so poorly is proof of my point that it has no pull whatsoever with the current market. Now yes, Wii U's marketing was a disaster, said that myself countless times. But the Wii brand was severely damaged well before then. By 2012, many associated the word Wii with motion controlled gimmickery. And Wii Sports was instrumental to that: it firmly tied the Wii to motion controls to almost the exclusion of all else. When motion controls fell out of fashion and the audience that still cared left, the Wii brand's strength crumbled away. The Wii U had an uphill battle from day one. |
WSC is a digital release title brought out with out any notification to consumers not even in the same ball park as a packed in title from launch that pushed a concept that was removed from the platform. I remembered the title just fine, the Wii brand was far from damaged in fact if Wii U was called Wii 2 and had marketing and a cheap price it would have sold fine, they could have released a slightly more powerful Wii and sold just fine.
What damaged the Wii brand was the handling of the platform not any game like you claimed, no game of any sort was going to save the Wii U not WS or even GTA as the platform was barely known to anyone as people thought it was an add on and Nintendo distanced the platform from what made the predecessor successful, that's what damaged the brand, not one gme like you claim.
| vivster said: From this commercial I take that the joycons are water resistant. |
Yeah, I noticed it too. Probably overlooked in production of the ad, I pretty much doubt they are.
Nuvendil said:
What? The Wii U had Wii Sports! Wii Sports Club launched in November, 2013. And no one cared. No one rushed out to buy it. No one saw it on shelves and freaked out. It has sold less than half a million copies to date retail, Bayonetta 2 tops that and it's a niche Platinum game. The Wii-game brand is practically dead. The fact you didn't even remember Wii Sports Club and that it sold so poorly is proof of my point that it has no pull whatsoever with the current market. Now yes, Wii U's marketing was a disaster, said that myself countless times. But the Wii brand was severely damaged well before then. By 2012, many associated the word Wii with motion controlled gimmickery. And Wii Sports was instrumental to that: it firmly tied the Wii to motion controls to almost the exclusion of all else. When motion controls fell out of fashion and the audience that still cared left, the Wii brand's strength crumbled away. The Wii U had an uphill battle from day one. |
No one could see Wii Sports Club on shelves becase a physical version capable of sitting on a store shelf did not exist. All that was launched in Novermber 2013 were digital versions of bowling and tennis. It took until summer 2014 for all 5 sports to be released, and only after that was a physical version released with no mareting push. Releasing each sport piecemeal, charging $13 per sport, including far less content in the whole package than Wii Sports Resort had for a lower price, and not bothering with a physical release for almost a year is why Wii Sports Club sold so much less.
Imagine if Nintendo released a digital-only version of Mario Kart with only 1 cup, charged $13 for that cup, and gradually released the remaining 3 cups for $13 each over a period of 8 months, and only then released a physical version. How would that sell compared to MK8?
Miyamotoo said:
One game cant harm Switchs image and presented like "gimmicky and lame" espacily when we know that actualy key title for Switch is Zelda BotW and thats game that Nintendo is pushing hardest. 1, 2, Switch is just one game and its aiming at more casuals and ex Wii owners crowd. |
It's being pushed as one of the system's major titles. That's a problem when it's the kind of game that pushes away core gamers. Aiming at the casuals is futile; it's not 2006 anymore, they can already get throwaway minigame fluff like this for free on their smartphone.
Seems like Nintendo is on a roll as far as commercials is concerned. Good to see! Seems like they've learned a lot from the Wii U.
Does anyone know if this is produced by Nintendo Japan or NoA? I'm guessing NoA, and that probably goes for their reveal trailer back in October as well.
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| Rogerioandrade said: It´s just like that first trailer they launched last year. But longer. Nice. |
Yeah. They really lost me when the two guys in the psychiatric ward were playing imagination sword fight. Pretty decent trailer. The first one was better imo. I must have blinked, and missed all the parts where people were fumbling around with their smartphones to go online. It's such an elegant solution I'm surprised they glossed over it. I'll have to watch it again.
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