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Nuvendil said:
Wyrdness said:

Sorry mate but you're heavily wrong here, Wii Sports never hurt the Wii Brand in fact its absence on Wii U was one of the things that hurt the Wii U, the handling of the Wii U is what hurt the platform not Wii Sports that claim is just flat out wrong.

What?  The Wii U had Wii Sports!  Wii Sports Club launched in November, 2013.  And no one cared.   No one rushed out to buy it.  No one saw it on shelves and freaked out.  It has sold less than half a million copies to date retail, Bayonetta 2 tops that and it's a niche Platinum game. The Wii-game brand is practically dead.  The fact you didn't even remember Wii Sports Club and that it sold so poorly is proof of my point that it has no pull whatsoever with the current market.

Now yes, Wii U's marketing was a disaster, said that myself countless times.  But the Wii brand was severely damaged well before then.  By 2012, many associated the word Wii with motion controlled gimmickery.  And Wii Sports was instrumental to that: it firmly tied the Wii to motion controls to almost the exclusion of all else.  When motion controls fell out of fashion and the audience that still cared left, the Wii brand's strength crumbled away.  The Wii U had an uphill battle from day one.

You may be right, but it's telling when you still have customers, years later, who don't even know the Wii U actually exists or are confused with what it can do and why it's separate from the Wii.