Swordmasterman said:
JRPGfan said:
Why is that a excessively high expectation of PS4 sales?
End of next year its gonna be 75m or so.... thats in early 2018.
Then 2018,2019... Its gonna be 100m+ before the Playstation 5 launches.
Even then, it will continue to sell afterwards.... maybe not 30m though?
Depends on how big the games library is, what kinda support it gets after PS5 launch, and what price Sony gets PS4 down too.
I wouldnt say 120m is unrealistic though, the PS4 might actually end up around there.
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The PS3 is the less successful Sony's console and, even so, it sold over 90 millions of units lifetime. I don't know why some people thinks that it won't outsell the Wii and break the 100 millions mark.
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86m-87m...
Personally, I don't say that it won't surpass wii. As for the other things, it's a long story, it's related to core market size and the shrinkage of the market overall.
How much PS1 sold? 102.4m...
My opinion is that market has shrunk, this isn't visible now because PS4/XB1 selling at a blazingly fast pace but wait a little bit, xb1 is already close to fall below xbox360 , and xbox 360 best years ( kinect and slim model ) haven't come.
If PS4 sells 120-130m with xb1 having sold 50m, then that would mean no decline from 7th gen xbox360+ps3...
However, is that possible? Do you think that xbox 360 sold 62m more than og xbox just with hardcore gamers? And if so, you suppose that these are returning to sony, since PS2 had sold 155m but PS3 86M-87M and xbox 360 stole them? Maybe a significant proportion of hardcore gamers, howbeit the rest is casual gamers and ps2 had a lot of casual gamers, not according to me but sony itself, plus that many people bought it as a dvd player.
I would be happy to be refuted though. That's not improbable.
Most of you believe that wii was the only console with casual audience, no, PS2 was the first one and xbox 360 had its own share of that audience thanks to kinect. Hence XBOX1 decline is inevitable! it's because of these people abandoning the market, like with wii, it's not due to MS mistakes which allegdly pushed many xbox360 owners to PS4, some dillude themshelves by considering this. So for me selling double the numbers of original xbox is a great success!
Perhaps ps4 could reach that number if a massive number of old PS4 owners upgrade to Pro or if casual gamers haven't really departed...http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/27/sony-looking-to-reach-casual-gamers-with-ps4 What do you infer from this?
So the conclusion is that there are not enough hardcore gamers for 120m-130m sales with one console! Also, PS4 has a strong competition in the NA/ USA and the price cannot go as much as lower is needed without sony losing money and this gen they finally care for profit and not the installbase...
Fast selling can lead to fallacy.
