Also intersting is the UHD version to LaserDisc that launched in '94, Muse hivision.
http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/laserdisc_archive/muse_high_def_ld/Muse_high_def_ld.htm
The discs displayed at 1035i with upto 1122 horizontal resolution. (Actually 1125 scanlines with overscanning)
A full 10 years before blu-ray appeared. The last Laserdisc movie was released in 2002. The convenience of DVD killed the struggling format. The Hivision version never caught on due to it being very expensive for the equipment, movies and compatible displays. It only lasted 4 years.

Online one episode for a 4k episode of a TV show was like 20GB. For a good 1080p video you were looking at like 2.5-4 GB.

Dam it's hard to be all for it for streaming 4K videos.

90% believe the difference between 900p and 1080p is akin to "worlds apart"? That's... an incredibly silly thing to say. So almost every Nintendo (VGCs largest fanbase), Sony, and MS fan on VGC don't only value image quality, but are image quality enthusiasts to the point that they actively express that the difference between 900p and 1080p is akin to "worlds different"?

Regardless, your reason for making the comparison doesn't change how flawed it is. Not only because DVD having its own clear advantages makes statements like "the average human doesn't actually care" somewhat aimless, but also because you're not dealing with 2 fully overlapping groups.

physical is dead to me. i have about 400 dvds and maybe 30 blurays but i don't watch any of them. i really think the "outrage" against ps4 pro not having a UHD player was quite laughable. UHD will never catch on. it's as DoA as 3D blu rays.

i stream now. i love not having to get up off the couch to put a disc in. i love that the exact episode or even second within an episode/move is remembered if i stop in the middle and pick it up later (even if i watch on a different device). it is just so convient.


but also,.. the "industry" has been dicks to us consumers for years. the format wars between blu ray and HD DVD. the constantly evolving resolution standards. HDMI 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3a, 1.4a, 2.0. 3D. as a consumer i can't buy a device and have resonable expectation that it will work for 10 years. they keep moving the fucking goalposts and they've been shit about forward compatibility.

there isn't a standardized way to buy digital content either so each purchase is tied to a specific service provider making the idea of shopping around for the best pricing a way to fracture my content library across services that each have the liability of supporting some but generally not all devices.

so my opinion is fuck the industry. they've made it impossible for me to want to purchase content. i "rent" netflix each month and that's it. i barely put any money into media anymore and i blame them for making it so fucking hard to want to buy anything.

I love physical media, but I can't help but fully agree with you. My physical movie buying habits have shrunk a lot in the last few years. From over $1200 a year to less than $300 this year.

Having less time to complete movies in one sitting, the disadvantages of blu-ray are really starting to nag. Only a few actually let you resume straight away from where you left off. Most make you sit through all the crap again first and some don't even remember where you stopped watching. I watch a lot more Netflix now. Instant resume where you left off is the most convenient feauture for me. Plus tv series are usually overpriced on blu-ray, especially since you only watch it once. Nowadays I also wait for Netflix with movies I only intend to watch once.

And indeed screw buying digital movies. I don't want different accounts with different services to get a fractured library of 'permanent' gimped rentals. (lossy sound, no extras, no value)

I'm banging my head against the wall for the level of stupidity of HDMI. Ofcourse if you want the best quality movies, you don't want to listen to them over tv speakers. First I had to upgrade my flag ship Yamaha DSP AX1 receiver since all the advanced audio options were now on HDMI. Now I've got to do it again because hdmi isn't forward compatible with sound. Why the fuck didn't the industry make sound a separate stream in the HDMI cable that can be read independantly of the video signal. Or simply stick to toslink and allow 7.1 uncompressed or DTS HD-MA over fiber optics.

There is zero benefit to sound on UHD blu-ray. You just have to throw away a perfectly good receiver because it can't pass through a 4K signal. Or you can downgrade to lossy 5.1 coming back from the tv over the arc return channel or via toslink standard from 1983. (Modern Toslink has the bandwidth for lossless, yet not the copy protection, hence lossless is only supported through hdmi)

Anyway I bought new speakers instead of a 4K tv.

Nah, that depends on so many variables. Quality, codec, fps, sound etc. It cannot be answered in a simple way.

Some googling (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2015/09/iphone-6s-4k-video-space.html) says 1 minute 4K at 30fps takes on the iPhone (with it's encoder probably) 375MB. Another source (https://gopro.com/support/articles/hero4-black-recording-time-in-each-video-setting) has recording for Hero at 4K and 30 fps at 60 Mbps.

Wikipedia says that with HEVC-codec 4K-streaming should be possible with 20-30Mbps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution

Streaming may have some overhead. Due to it's realtime-nature it needs to switch quality if bandwith is changing and better sends packets another time if it isn't sure the receiver got it. But double as much? I very much doubt that.

Well, downloading surely has it's advantage as you can download the movie for the evening in 24 hours instead of 2 for streaming. On the other hand most content deliverers don't want to give away their stuff, so they choose streaming.

i rediscovered the library.  netflix kind of sucks for movies but my library has all the new releases and for free.  so if i watch a movie that's how i watch it.  

I've switched to Blue Ray as my main format fairly recently, so my Ps3 still gets some good use for that. I've mainly switched because of the amazing quality you get out of rescanned amination masters. Disney rescanned Sleeping Beauty for their Blue Ray release and the results are simply stunning. I couln't pass that up.
Since then I've been treating myself to the Ghibli Blue Ray collection as well.

You've gone full circle.