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JWeinCom on 08 October 2016
jason1637 said:
bunchanumbers said:

I sincerely doubt he would be apologizing if he didn't get caught.

I also doubt it but that doesn't mean he didn't regret it inside. 

Except his actions don't show remorse.  His actions have shown him to be mysogynistic up to his rant about Alissa Machado last week.  There are his comments about Ted Cruz's wife, his comments on the appearance of Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton, his implication that Megyn Kelly was mean to him because of her period, saying that all women contestents on the apprentice wanted him consciously or subconciously, downplaying sexual assault in the military, talking about how Hillary couldn't satisfy Bill, etc etc.  His actions over the year do not paint the picture of a man who generally respects women who made a few off color comments in the past.  They paint the picture of someone who generally has no regard for women, except as sexual objects.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/



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JRPGfan on 08 October 2016
NightDragon83 said:
So what? How's this any worse than what Bill Clinton ACTUALLY did with women both prior to and during his term in office? I seem to remember him having record approval ratings during the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and none of the numerous scandals that came out during his initial run for office stopped him from locking up the Democratic nomination or hurt him with voters later on during the general election.

But that was all A-OK because Clinton is a Democrat. Trump's biggest problem is he ran on the wrong ticket... if he was the Dem nominee for president and he said and did the same stuff he does, but only geared towards Republicans, the media would literally be carrying him to election day.

Haveing a affair is differnt, than basically walking around and gropeing women. 

You dont walk up to strangers and stick your fingers between their legs.

Apparently Trump has, and brags about it.

Atleast thats what Im getting from this threads discussion.

 

One is morally wrong, and the other is basically assault.



Azuren on 08 October 2016
SuaveSocialist said:
Qwark said:

That depends on whether these women felt assaulted in the first place. 

At least you're open with your belief that it isn't wrong to want to sexually assault women, nor to act upon those urges.  But I'm glad that I'm from a country that disagrees with your concept of consent only mattering if it isn't verified after the fact.

You jumped pretty far from what Qwark implied. Mayhap you go back and re-read it. Because I didn't catch the "Sexual Assault is Okay" bit, only a suggestion that it's only sexual assault if it wasn't consensual advances. 



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Lrdfancypants on 08 October 2016
JRPGfan said:
NightDragon83 said:
So what? How's this any worse than what Bill Clinton ACTUALLY did with women both prior to and during his term in office? I seem to remember him having record approval ratings during the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and none of the numerous scandals that came out during his initial run for office stopped him from locking up the Democratic nomination or hurt him with voters later on during the general election.

But that was all A-OK because Clinton is a Democrat. Trump's biggest problem is he ran on the wrong ticket... if he was the Dem nominee for president and he said and did the same stuff he does, but only geared towards Republicans, the media would literally be carrying him to election day.

Haveing a affair is differnt, than basically walking around and gropeing women. 

You dont walk up to strangers and stick your fingers between their legs.

Apparently Trump has, and brags about it.

Atleast thats what Im getting from this threads discussion.

 

One is morally wrong, and the other is basically assault.

He wasn't just referring to the affairs. 



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jason1637 on 08 October 2016
JWeinCom said:
jason1637 said:

I also doubt it but that doesn't mean he didn't regret it inside. 

Except his actions don't show remorse.  His actions have shown him to be mysogynistic up to his rant about Alissa Machado last week.  There are his comments about Ted Cruz's wife, his comments on the appearance of Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton, his implication that Megyn Kelly was mean to him because of her period, saying that all women contestents on the apprentice wanted him consciously or subconciously, downplaying sexual assault in the military, talking about how Hillary couldn't satisfy Bill, etc etc.  His actions over the year do not paint the picture of a man who generally respects women who made a few off color comments in the past.  They paint the picture of someone who generally has no regard for women, except as sexual objects.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/

That's terrible. Hopefully, this apology is a step in the right direction. Trump has a women problem and he needs to try harder to be less sexist.



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Slimebeast on 08 October 2016
SuaveSocialist said:
Qwark said:

That depends on whether these women felt assaulted in the first place. 

At least you're open with your belief that it isn't wrong to want to sexually assault women, nor to act upon those urges.  But I'm glad that I'm from a country that disagrees with your concept of consent only mattering if it isn't verified after the fact.

Wait a minute, what did Trump say? Didn't he only said he tried to grab them in the pussy? If a girl is flirtateous it's sometimes okay to touch the pussy.



Robert_Downey_Jr. on 08 October 2016

I actually doubt he did these things given his nature. He's a liar and this sounds like something he'd say to impress the guys. "oh yeah I can totally go up to any girl and kiss her and grab her and stuff and they totally let me." sounds like my high school classmates who always had hot girlfriends who went to far off schools



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deskpro2k3 on 08 October 2016

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JWeinCom on 08 October 2016
Slimebeast said:
SuaveSocialist said:

At least you're open with your belief that it isn't wrong to want to sexually assault women, nor to act upon those urges.  But I'm glad that I'm from a country that disagrees with your concept of consent only mattering if it isn't verified after the fact.

Wait a minute, what did Drumpf say? Didn't he only said he tried to grab them in the pussy? If a girl is flirtateous it's sometimes okay to touch the pussy.

A girl being flirtacious is not consent to grab her by the pussy.



SuaveSocialist on 08 October 2016
Slimebeast said:
SuaveSocialist said:

At least you're open with your belief that it isn't wrong to want to sexually assault women, nor to act upon those urges.  But I'm glad that I'm from a country that disagrees with your concept of consent only mattering if it isn't verified after the fact.

1.  Wait a minute, what did Trump say?
2.  Didn't he only said he tried to grab them in the pussy?
3.  If a girl is flirtateous it's sometimes okay to touch the pussy.

1.  "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them.  It's like a magnet.  Just kiss.  I don't even wait." -- Trump
 "When you're a star they let you do it.  You can do anything.  Just grab 'em by the pussy.  You can do anything." --Trump
2.  No, he said that he just does it (and that he just starts kissing them because magnets).  Probably why numerous women have accused him sexual harassment/assault over the years, and a great deal more have complained about his unwanted advances.  Naturally, Trump responded by trying to ruin them all financially.
3.  Trump never said anything about them being flirtatious.  He gave no context of when it's okay or not okay to make a move (unless you count being 'a star' as being entitled to do it whenever you want).  He just says that he goes out and does these things.  It's the difference between desiring somebody and being a sexual predator.