| SocialistSlayer said: why stop at gender, let kids decide what species they are, or if they even identify as an animate object. |
Look mom! Im a car *wrooom wrooom*
| SocialistSlayer said: why stop at gender, let kids decide what species they are, or if they even identify as an animate object. |
Look mom! Im a car *wrooom wrooom*
boys have a penis girls have a vagina.
isn't that how kids should be classified because you know at school that is what teacher classify them as anyway.
when they grow p and feel like they got extra bits or lacking extra bits then can identify to what they want.
Can we also ban spurgeonryan.
He never participates in the discussions he starts when people want answers lol.
jason1637 said:
Thats BS |
....right...Men who want to become a woman and vice versa are perfectly sane...
You don't decide your gender yourself, that's done while you're in the womb developing. The only thing you're doing by having a "sex change" when you're older is (A) attempting and failing to go against the laws of nature and (B) just completely disfiguring your own natural body by having it sliced and diced and stitched up. A man will NEVER beable to have a Virgina or breasts and a women will NEVER be able to have a penis, no matter what the scalpel and surgeons do.
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gatito said:
Evolution? Women give birth, that is a biological fact and cannot be changed (yet). But how are they more fit to raise, nurture and protect a child? Short answer: they're not. That's because a man can do it just fine (except for breast milk but most people nowadays don't even like that). If the mother dies at childbirth is the baby screwed? Oh no, you lost the one person that was naturally intended to make sure you get your diapers changed, take you to school and other womanly stuff, we might as well dump you right now because it's the natural way. Daddy can't do it, that's for sure. He's a man and is not prepared fot this kind of stuff. So yeah, no evolution here. Man and women are not that different aside from genitals. That's from a physical standpoint. Gender on the other hand is what makes all the difference. |
I think that you're missunderstanding my post. Women are more suited to raise a child from infant to adult than men. That's a fact. That doesn't mean that a guy can't raise a child by himself but a kid is better off if a woman raises the kid. Do you understand the distiction?
Teeqoz said:
Nature didn't intend anything. Nature doesn't intend. Evolution just occurs and whatever works best will get to continue. So what works best is what will be further improved upon. However, the situation around evolution always changes and evolution often spend a couple million years to catch up if the situation changes drastically (and you can bet human society has made the situation changes bloody drastically). So right now, we as a society have to circumwent evolution. By doing that, we aren't going against what nature "intended", because a) Nature doesn't intend anything and b) It's in our "nature" to "defy" nature. Just look at your laptop and ask yourself "is that natural?" (which, btw, it actually is, due to point b) itself. Humans have naturally evolved to exploit nature in ways that couldn't occur by themselves in nature. So that sorta makes it natural after all.) |
"Nature" intended is what we were evolved to do. Humans have a higher level of intelligence and hands. It's the tools we got from evolution to adapt to the world we live in and we use them to the fullest for good or bad. You can try to debate that we're defying nature or circumventing evolution all you want but we're really not. Every tool or invention or concept we ever had is a product of what evolution gave us.

Gender, sex, whatever you want to call it, isn't something chosen. It's an identifier of your genitalia. Period.
If you identify sexually as something else, fine. You still have a penis, you're still male.
There are instances of ambiguity, but not nearly as many as overly progressive people would have you believe. What we have going on here is a fad. It's cool to be transgendered, or to identify as something other than their actual gender.
And I wouldn't care about this if it didn't undermine legitimate gender displaysia. There are thousands of people playing along with a Tumblr fad right now, making it difficult for people with legitimate problems to be taken seriously. I grew up with a girl who mentally needed to be a boy, and she went from Heather to Heath thanks to it being treated as a legitimate mental condition. But if he had those problems now? He'd be another fad victim in the eyes of society.
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Aeolus451 said:
"Nature" intended is what we were evolved to do. Humans have a higher level of intelligence and hands. It's the tools we got from evolution to adapt to the world we live in and we use them to the fullest for good or bad. You can try to debate that we're defying nature or circumventing evolution all you want but we're really not. Every tool or invention or concept we ever had is a product of what evolution gave us. |
We are agreeing in a sense. Like I said "Humans have naturally evolved to exploit nature in ways that couldn't occur by themselves in nature. So that sorta makes it natural after all."
I thought you were arguing that "x and y isn't right because it's not what nature intended", so my point was that anything humans do, including "circumventing" evolution and nature is ultimately a result of evolution and nature itself, so nothing is, per se unnatural. But I now think that I just misunderstood you.

Teeqoz said:
We are agreeing in a sense. Like I said "Humans have naturally evolved to exploit nature in ways that couldn't occur by themselves in nature. So that sorta makes it natural after all."
I thought you were arguing that "x and y isn't right because it's not what nature intended", so my point was that anything humans do, including "circumventing" evolution and nature is ultimately a result of evolution and nature itself, so nothing is, per se unnatural. But I now think that I just misunderstood you. |
It's why I elaborated a bit more.

| Shackkobe said: Fact # 1. You cannot choose your sex, it is decided naturally at conception.
Fact # 2. If anyone believes they are trapped in the wrong body they have a serious psychological problem and need to seek help immediately.
Fact # 3. Pretending to be of the opposite sex or mutilating your body will NEVER enable you to change what is biologically set.
Fact # 4. The fact that we are actually struggling with understanding these basic biological facts is indicative of serious brainwashing.
Fact # 5. Some individuals will believe that I am the one who is brainwashed and reject every single fact that I said above because it is unpleasant to them.
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Pretty much this.