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gatito said:
Aeolus451 said:

I disagree with your examples but not your point. Humans are just one species and humans evolved a certain way where each sex fits it's certain role that's suited to them. Of course, people do what they want but that doesn't change what nature intended.  

Evolution? Women give birth, that is a biological fact and cannot be changed (yet). But how are they more fit to raise, nurture and protect a child? Short answer: they're not. That's because a man can do it just fine (except for breast milk but most people nowadays don't even like that).

If the mother dies at childbirth is the baby screwed? Oh no, you lost the one person that was naturally intended to make sure you get your diapers changed, take you to school and other womanly stuff, we might as well dump you right now because it's the natural way. Daddy can't do it, that's for sure. He's a man and is not prepared fot this kind of stuff.

So yeah, no evolution here. Man and women are not that different aside from genitals. That's from a physical standpoint. Gender on the other hand is what makes all the difference.

I think that you're missunderstanding my post. Women are more suited to raise a child from infant to adult than men. That's a fact. That doesn't mean that a guy can't raise a child by himself but a kid is better off if a woman raises the kid. Do you understand the distiction?

Teeqoz said:
Aeolus451 said:

I disagree with your examples but not your point. Humans are just one species and humans evolved a certain way where each sex fits it's certain role that's suited to them. Of course, people do what they want but that doesn't change what nature intended.  

Nature didn't intend anything. Nature doesn't intend. Evolution just occurs and whatever works best will get to continue. So what works best is what will be further improved upon. However, the situation around evolution always changes and evolution often spend a couple million years to catch up if the situation changes drastically (and you can bet human society has made the situation changes bloody drastically). So right now, we as a society have to circumwent evolution. By doing that, we aren't going against what nature "intended", because a) Nature doesn't intend anything and b) It's in our "nature" to "defy" nature. Just look at your laptop and ask yourself "is that natural?" (which, btw, it actually is, due to point b) itself. Humans have naturally evolved to exploit nature in ways that couldn't occur by themselves in nature. So that sorta makes it natural after all.)

"Nature" intended is what we were evolved to do. Humans have a higher level of intelligence and hands. It's the tools we got from evolution to adapt to the world we live in and we use them to the fullest for good or bad. You can try to debate that we're defying nature or circumventing evolution all you want but we're really not. Every tool or invention or concept we ever had is a product of what evolution gave us.