Tachikoma said:
Samus Aran said:
Tachikoma said:
PlayStation has surpassed Nintendo, and Mario has surpassed Nintendo. When people think of "nintendo" the first thing they think is Mario, not Nintendo as a whole, when people think of PlayStation, they think of the consoles themselves, and the entire library.
We are comparing the brands here not the franchises under them.
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Nintendo has multiple franchises that can currently compete with Mario in terms of sales like Animal Crossing, Super Smash Bros. (a celebration of Nintendo as a whole no less) and Pokémon. A new IP like Splatoon can even compete with Super Mario 3D World. Traditional Mario games have even been surpassed by a spin-off game named Mario Kart. Mario isn't the undisputed king anymore at Nintendo. What he does do better than any other video game franchise is making spin-off games that sell.
Playstation is a brand of console hardware, Nintendo is a brand of the company as a whole (consoles + games). You can't talk about the Nintendo brand and not talk about its iconic franchises.
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That just makes the franchises Iconic, not the brand itself.
Being unable to see Nintendo as a brand beyond its various franchises only further solidifies the fact that the brand itself is less iconic, because the franchises that have, as i said, surpassed Nintendo themselves take center stage in place of Nintendo.
When you say PlayStation the first thing that enters most peoples heads are the consoles themselves, PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3, PS4, Vita, Pocketstation etc, and not the franchises that were released on them, as a direct result of this, the PlayStation brand is more iconic than the Nintendo brand.
Nobody is saying Nintendo doesn't have some of the most iconic franchises in history here, but iconic franchises and iconic brands are two different things, if the first thing you think of when you think "Nintendo" is franchises and not the Nintendo hardware itself, what you are doing is mistaking franchise icon for platform/brand icon.
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A franchise can very much be a brand. The word brand means "to burn" in my language (i.e. to burn your mark on a product). Pokémon is a brand, but so is Mario and Animal Crossing. You can buy all kinds of products with the "marks" of these franchises on.
As a console brand Playstation is obviously stronger, but why would that surprise anyone? Nintendo has never used the same name for too long with their consoles, it keeps changing. NES, SNES, Gameboy, DS, Wii, etc.
I think you're much more likely to sell clothes, toys, tv shows and collectables with the Nintendo brand than with the Playstation brand. And that's because the Nintendo brand is so much more than simply hardware. The Playstation brand on the other hand will sell you more consoles than the Nintendo brand. Each brand has their strenghts and weaknesses.
It's kind of silly comparing the Playstation brand with the Nintendo brand and then say we can only talk about consoles. That would only make sense if Nintendo called all their consoles NES 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.
So basically OP is comparing two very different things.