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Jumpin said:
Like I have been saying all along, NX 2016. The Wii U is on its last legs and will be replaced very soon.

Expect a unveiling of their mobile platform later this year at Gamescom or TGS, which are both much bigger and more important than E3.

Nintedo doesn't attend TGS, and Gamescom is by no means bigger than E3. If it were, Sony wouldn't skip it.



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Good points and I agree entirely.

I think even in light of this kind of thinking, and even though I was expecting the vast majority of Nintendo's announcements would be spin-offs, things like Amiibo Party stank, the pointless 5 minutes chat about the Yoshi amiibo didn't need to be in the Digital Event, and things like Bravely Second, Devil's Third, Fatal Frame V and Project Treasure should have been featured.

It was a poor show even given the circumstances, but Wii U's line for the rest of this year, and 3DS's line up for 2016 is looking good (particularly in Europe). For Wii U, there's Yoshi, Devil's Third, Fatal Frame, Super Mario Maker, Mario Tennis, Star Fox Zero and Xenoblade X I'm interested in. There haven't been so many potential buys for me since I bought the system at the end of 2013 and had software to catch up on. Even if there are only a handful of releases next year, I'll have bought around 25 retail titles (and at least 20 VC/eShop releases plus DLC) in two years of ownership. What other publisher would provide so much support for a commercial disaster?

Nintendo did a poor job of getting their content across, but the reactions have been sadly too typical of disappointed gamers in recent years: over the top outrage. The fact people are signing a petition demanding that Next Level's Metroid spin-off be scrapped is absolutely disgusting. Grow up, realise there are bigger problems, and if you don't like what Nintendo are doing: stop buying their games.



Well they´re already developing the NX and they have 9+ exclusives coming out THIS year aswell as Zelda, SMT X FE et cetera next year. They pump out games and are working on the successor of the Wii U and probably let it(The Wii U) have a shorter lifecycle than the Wii because it didn´t do so well. What´s the issue again?



KingdomHeartsFan said:

Its Nintendo's fault the Wii U is selling bad, they came out with it now they have to support it or risk losing gamers trust.  Gamers aren't gonna think well the Wii U is selling like shit so its okay for you to cut the support early Nintendo.



Sums it up perfectly, as much as I love Nintendo, putting out your console to pasture when it hasn't even been out for 3 years does not make me want to rush out and buy an NX. What if NX stumbles out of the blocks? are Nintendo going to do the same thing as Wii U? I have spent hundreds of pounds supporting the console with games, and whilst it has been immense fun, I will not spend another penny with Nintendo if they are going to drop support when things don't go to plan.

Even if the Wii U is a failure, it still sold 10m consoles so far and many of those that bought it are loyal Nintendo fans who might not buy their next console because the Wii U received so little support.



    

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I wasn't disappointent (not excited either) by the digital event. But I did not have high expectations for WiiU. I really like the 3DS and I'm happy about the support it gets. I don't understand why people completely ignoring the 3DS-stuff that was shown.

That matches my earlier claims, that Nintendo probably would be better off if they drop home console in favor of handheld.



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I thought expecting Next Level's game and Paper Mario for the WiiU was realistic since both have been rumored to be in development for quite a time now. Then again, they might come out later in 2016 which is why maybe Nintendo didn't talk about them..



                
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bunchanumbers said:
I just think that it would be bad if they think that more console power is going to fix their sales situation. It won't.

No that won't solve any problem, actually they either need more developers as second party or they need to unite portable with handheld so that they have a constant stream of games.  Games are what matter.. thats why everyone is pissed off about nintendos E3 Wii U showing.. 3ds had a great e3 showing cause they had many games for it.  



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Soundwave said:

I know everyone is raking Nintendo over the coals right now, but realistically how much can they be expected to support such a console? Did you really think those low sales weren't going to have a consequence down the line? 

They are supporting the Wii U well considering how big of a disaster it is. You can't realistically ask them to throw away games like the next "real" Animal Crossing, which could sell 4 million in Japan alone on the next-gen Nintendo handheld just so a small Nintendo fanbase on the Wii U can be happy and then watch it sell maybe 750k-1 million. That's just not good business.

There's something that's perhaps more important here than short term profits though. Some times you have to lose in order to start winning.
People are only looking at: what is more profitable now/short term = most logical course of action for Nintendo. I don't neccisarily agree, given the situation they are in.
The small fanbase they still have left will be very important for them going into their next generation console. Because if those people don't buy the NX early on, even if it potentially could be a great console, it'll never reach those heights if everyone, including the core base loyal fans that are still with them, take the wait and see approach to their next console. Then the same thing that happened with the WiiU could very well happen again, no matter how good the NX might be. People don't buy it because they're sceptical. Third parties see that no one wants to risk investing in it, so they take the same approach.

It's no doubt that they are in a very difficult situation right now. I don't think it would be the craziest business decision ever to try to make the fans at least a bit happier leading up to NX, with at least one or so new quality title announcement, after they went out and stated that they intend to continue supporting the WiiU. While Animal Crossing Party and Mario Tennis is indeed support, that's not exactly what people had in mind when they heard that.
I'll mention Sony as an example. When the PS3 was suffering due to their poor business decisions, they had to make a choice. Either let the consoel crash and burn, or spend a lot of money it would never earn them back, in order to make it an attractive console again, and regain consumer trust. They chose to go with the latter. And while they never got that money back, that decision is paying off for them now with the PS4.

Note that I'm not making a direct comparison of the situations here, and I'm not talking about Nintendo doing the same to save the WiiU. I'm simply showing this as an example of investing money for the future. Money that you won't neccisarily earn back now, but is still important for future relations with your customers.
Investing money in a quality game or two for the WiiU wouldn't cost nearly as much as what Sony spent to turn around the PS3. Especially if they did't bother making those weird titles that no one asked for, like Metroid Ball, Animal Crossing Party, and Zelda Four Swords 3, etc.
And in return, their loyal fans would at least feel a bit more at ease about supporting the next Nintendo console, even if it's doing badly. WiiU will only be 4 years old by the end of 2016 after all, so it's not like there's no compromise here, seeing as that's not the standard life cycle of a console. Also, there were basically no must have games for the WiiU during the first year, so what we have here right now is only two years of support with quality titles for the system.

I'd prefer if they made something liek a proper F-Zero rather than those titles showed us instead. Even if it won't make them as much money as it would on NX, or evebn if they'd lose some money. It may be very important for them to keep their current fanbase happy, going into NX.

Sony always have 3rd parties so its a different story.  Nintendo has to support 2 systems and like Tanabe said metroid will take 3 years to develop so its going to Nx..  Nintendo does not have as many third party games so there schedule becomes barren if they have to focus on the next system and 3ds, thats the reality of them leaving wii u in the dirt to rot.  



At this point I think 14-15 million is a realistic number for Wii U. As for the games and fans expectations I agree with OP. Sometimes people wish too much.