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Here are some JRPGs that have been missing since the PSX/PS2.

Brigandine (both games released on the PSX.  Grand Edition was a remake of Legend of Forsena, kind of like Castlevania 64 and Legacy of Darkness)
Dokapon (there was a Wii port of the PS2 game, not sure of the rest of the releases, but there's also one of these on the snes.)
King's Field  (two PSP games, they weren't anything like the rest of the King's Field series.)
Ogre Battle  (three games released for this series, snes/psx, n64, and ngpc)
Tactics Ogre  (two games released, knight of lodis for gba and let us cling together for snes/psx/and psp.  psp version was graphically the same additional content and tweaked gameplay.)



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oniyide said:

gonna have to disagree with you here. In the beginning of last gen there quite a few JRPGS, IMHO they werent very good and that is the reason why people lost interest, also it didnt help that MS was playing timed exclusive games. Funny thing is the genre peaked a while ago, way back in the original PS erta, they were putting out JRPGS like it was going out of style and it kinda did. Its not like the PS2 era was a trove for the genre either, it got a lot less JRPGS than the PS1 got. I think its just the natural order of things. No genre stays on top forever, they all rise and fall.


I concede it was a mix of the high Price of the PS3 and the microsoft exclusivity deals. The Xbox, even in the west was very connected to western games, RPG's aswell. Those deals resulted in several titles released to an audience that wasnt there, not that it didnt exist.

Some of the games released were extremely good aswell, i wouldnt say quality was an issue. Tales of Vesperia for example was an amazing game, one of the best tales and it got ignored. One can argue on how good lost odyssey, blue dragon and Star ocean 4 were, but i dont think they were bad games. The problem was it wasnt hitting the right audience. Had these games come in the last 2-3 years on the PS3 we could be lookig at a very different result.

Also, important was how the company seen has the king of RPG's faultered last gen, without Sakaguchi, without ideas and without an FF worthy of the title. Also the insistance on the sequals was more fuel to the fire.

But again, with FFXV looking to having an impact and the Xenoblade series, JRPG's are regaining the respect they once had and with the PS4 dominance the audience is there. Let the games come. We also need japan to stop making monster hunter clones and go back to JRPG's.



kupomogli said:

Here are some JRPGs that have been missing since the PSX/PS2.

Brigandine (both games released on the PSX.  Grand Edition was a remake of Legend of Forsena, kind of like Castlevania 64 and Legacy of Darkness)
Dokapon (there was a Wii port of the PS2 game, not sure of the rest of the releases, but there's also one of these on the snes.)
King's Field  (two PSP games, they weren't anything like the rest of the King's Field series.)
Ogre Battle  (three games released for this series, snes/psx, n64, and ngpc)
Tactics Ogre  (two games released, knight of lodis for gba and let us cling together for snes/psx/and psp.  psp version was graphically the same additional content and tweaked gameplay.)


Brigandine I am still confused how it is different than one title. I am unsure about Dokapon. I will add King's Battle and Orge Battle. 



 

This was as much of a series as Baten Kaitos was, I suppose. Two GameCube games.

Made by From Soft.



the_dengle said:

This was as much of a series as Baten Kaitos was, I suppose. Two GameCube games.

 

Made by From Soft.


I really did forget about Lost Kingdoms, I loved the game when I played it. Given I barely remember it now. 



 

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Acevil said:

I really did forget about Lost Kingdoms, I loved the game when I played it. Given I barely remember it now. 

I never even played it, I watched someone play it for a bit. Once. I thought it looked cool and somehow the memory stuck with me. Ten years later I looked into it and found it. Maybe I'll try to play it sometime. It seems like it didn't get great reviews, but I want to try it.



Nem said:
oniyide said:

gonna have to disagree with you here. In the beginning of last gen there quite a few JRPGS, IMHO they werent very good and that is the reason why people lost interest, also it didnt help that MS was playing timed exclusive games. Funny thing is the genre peaked a while ago, way back in the original PS erta, they were putting out JRPGS like it was going out of style and it kinda did. Its not like the PS2 era was a trove for the genre either, it got a lot less JRPGS than the PS1 got. I think its just the natural order of things. No genre stays on top forever, they all rise and fall.


I concede it was a mix of the high Price of the PS3 and the microsoft exclusivity deals. The Xbox, even in the west was very connected to western games, RPG's aswell. Those deals resulted in several titles released to an audience that wasnt there, not that it didnt exist.

Some of the games released were extremely good aswell, i wouldnt say quality was an issue. Tales of Vesperia for example was an amazing game, one of the best tales and it got ignored. One can argue on how good lost odyssey, blue dragon and Star ocean 4 were, but i dont think they were bad games. The problem was it wasnt hitting the right audience. Had these games come in the last 2-3 years on the PS3 we could be lookig at a very different result.

Also, important was how the company seen has the king of RPG's faultered last gen, without Sakaguchi, without ideas and without an FF worthy of the title. Also the insistance on the sequals was more fuel to the fire.

But again, with FFXV looking to having an impact and the Xenoblade series, JRPG's are regaining the respect they once had and with the PS4 dominance the audience is there. Let the games come. We also need japan to stop making monster hunter clones and go back to JRPG's.

I would disagree IMHO Blue Dragon was way overrated. Star Ocean 4 isnt even close to the quality of the older entries, thats just me though. THe sales werent great so either the games were just ok or like you said released on the wrong system/audience.  The games that did release on PS3 in the last 2-3 years did actually do ok to good.

Oh yeah Square def screwed up hard, i think that effected the entire genre, not good when the leader falters so badly it doesnt put faint in much

I hope they do make a comeback, but with game development getting not cheaper i dont see it happening, no at PS2 levels, maybe PS2 



I would disagree IMHO Blue Dragon was way overrated. Star Ocean 4 isnt even close to the quality of the older entries, thats just me though. THe sales werent great so either the games were just ok or like you said released on the wrong system/audience.  The games that did release on PS3 in the last 2-3 years did actually do ok to good.

Oh yeah Square def screwed up hard, i think that effected the entire genre, not good when the leader falters so badly it doesnt put faint in much

I hope they do make a comeback, but with game development getting not cheaper i dont see it happening, no at PS2 levels, maybe PS2 

I agree.  Most RPGs this gen sucked, even compared to some of the weakest RPGs in a previous gen.  Seeing comments of how good games like Star Ocean the Last Hope and at one time seeing some one in this very forum state it's their favorite RPG really makes me doubt quality of a game like Lost Odyssey.  I've never played it, but people over here praising garbage, Lost Odyssey might be a complete joke to quality released in past gens.  People can't see the flaws in glaring flaws in FF10 so I wouldnt be surprised.



I remember Dark cloud, that was a great game.



kupomogli said:

I would disagree IMHO Blue Dragon was way overrated. Star Ocean 4 isnt even close to the quality of the older entries, thats just me though. THe sales werent great so either the games were just ok or like you said released on the wrong system/audience.  The games that did release on PS3 in the last 2-3 years did actually do ok to good.

Oh yeah Square def screwed up hard, i think that effected the entire genre, not good when the leader falters so badly it doesnt put faint in much

I hope they do make a comeback, but with game development getting not cheaper i dont see it happening, no at PS2 levels, maybe PS2 

I agree.  Most RPGs this gen sucked, even compared to some of the weakest RPGs in a previous gen.  Seeing comments of how good games like Star Ocean the Last Hope and at one time seeing some one in this very forum state it's their favorite RPG really makes me doubt quality of a game like Lost Odyssey.  I've never played it, but people over here praising garbage, Lost Odyssey might be a complete joke to quality released in past gens.  People can't see the flaws in glaring flaws in FF10 so I wouldnt be surprised.


standards drop. I remember playing FF13 around the same time Grandia 1 had went on the PSN classics. I never played the game before so i was wondering why it was so good and why it was so much better than FF13