Redundant comparison and discussion.

A Nintendo platform is strong thanks to 1st party games, a Sony platform is strong thanks to 3rd party games.

None of Nintendo's developers do ever need to follow one of the (imo inferior) Sony developers.

I pretty much agree with the OP. Retro should be making a flagship new western ip. Western gameplay, dialogue and humor.

I would take it further, as Retro should have two full teams internally and Nintendo should also buy Gunfire. They would then have 3 AAA studios in Texas and if they were making fun, unique games they could be a development hub were people would want to work.

There should be one new western ip game coming out of Texas each year for Nintendo consoles. And when I say mature, I mean just moderately mature like titles such as Halo, Uncharted or Mass Effect. Metroid could be in the 3 year rotation too, but there should be new ideas coming out of Texas.

You are talking about going western, not mainstream. Uncharted will never compare to the mainstream games like Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii or Wii Fit.

Your point was going western, and that was Metroid Prime. Why do you think MP3 Corruption is more based on battles than puzzles? Why do you think you have a large crew rather than solitary games like the first 2? Why do you think there were a lot of cutscenes in Other M? Even this last game tried to appeal to the western audience. Unfortunately, execution and not being a third person shooter make it impossible to achieve its objective.

i still think GTAV would be the game changer game for wii U.
If zombi U was more polished, GTAV was released with exclusive features on wii U in the same time as ps360(or before), and DKCTF was a big AAA western game (despite DKCTF being my favorite wii U game), wii U would be in a way better position in US by now.

This also would help to sell more western third party games, and they wouldnt stop to support wii U.


Instead, wii U is a good place for indies and 2D platforms, so I cant stand tembo not going to wii U.

Hope Metroid can re-establish itself and appeal again to mature gamers. i agree that NOA should try to find other studios to create new IPs targeted for 'M' demographic. this would help the 3rd party devs to come to Nintendo since it can have the userbase needed.

I know Iwata and others would say, they don't want to directly compete with Sony and MS. But creating new mature IPs can expand their demographic. it is true that Nintendo's market is eaten up by the mobile gamers through Tablets and Smartphones. Expanding is not a bad option but hopefully Iwata can provide that blessing to NOA.

We keep talking about how Retro could become Ninty's ND, but that will never happen.. For Ninty, Retro is nothing more than the studio that makes Metroid and DK. I'd love to be proven wrong though! A new IP by Retro would be amazing.

It will not happen, but not for the reasons you say. ND is more than twice as big as Retro... Nintendo should really invest into a 250 man sized team that can work on 3 projects at once (2 on console and one on HH).

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They were created by Nintendo for the sole purpose of creating western first party IP what would appeal to western gamers, dude.

I mean, I wasn't really talking about the gameplay propositions. I do agree that if Nintendo were to house sports games, it should find that happy medium, but I don't think they'd even hit the first million without a real roster. Without one, they're effectively wasting their time.

Same with the whole idea about Retro. I tried to stay away from fantasizing about the specific type of game they could make, because the main point of the thread was to say that they should make some new and western in general. That said, of course I don't think that they should make a game with the explicit point of "killing" something. Uncharted wasn't trying to be a Resi4 killer. Same deal here.

Well they didnt make new IPs, but Metroid and Donkey Kong Country are more popular in the west.