Riiiiiiiiight lol I was way ahead of myself. Didn't pay attention to the context of your post. My bad!

Haha no problem, I just edited that last post, what do u think of my idea on the first page?

Nintendo is losing because they're playing by their own rules. I'm not saying that Retro should make an Uncharted clone, but Nintendo needs to have the same epiphone they had with smart phones. Their games are not selling their hardware. It's not enough. Frankly, they could maky ten AAA Nintendo games a month, and it would never be enough, because mainstream gamers don't want just those games. Until Nintendo "plays me too" and starts getting on the ball with the west, they will keep under performing.

I'm not saying this to be mean, but it literally doesn't matter what your preferance is. Nintendo only catering to you is literally killing their console business. Nintendo needs to do more than that, and Retro is by far the best studio they have that is equiped to do it. Somewhere down the line, Nintendo has to start playing ball with the rest of the industry. They don't have the foundation to only do what they want anymore. They have to start doing what everyone wants, too.

Splatoon is proof that they realizing that. So is XCX. So is Nintendo going mobile. All examples of Nintendo incrementally moving forward. Nintendo putting a stake in the west is arguably the most important.

And that's frankly terrible. Why should platformer stars be using machine guns? It's basically a stereotype of the games industry and part of why that franchise was mishandled compared to Crash or Uncharted: both of those games at least knew who they were targeting.

So you are not saying that Retro should make new mature IPs like ND?

So you want Nintendo to waste a lot of money on games that aren't going to make PS/X players jump ship anyway?

While I think that's a good idea, I think that it's something that will take time. Nintendo definitely does need a place for sport and racing sims, but those feel secondary to the types of games people buy consoles for. I think that it's important for Nintendo to have those types of games without needing to depend on EA, 2K, or Konami, but I think that Nintendo right now and get people buying the NX first with blockbuster games.

That being said, I do think that Nintendo gains something from having your trifecta. Especially if they can do something to differenciate themselves from those other games. The biggest issue comes from licensing. There's no point in either if Nintendo can't get official player rosters or a good variety of cars. Problems like with Madden are glaring.

I also feel this, the one thing that irks me out of all of this discussion, especially with other Nintendo dicussions it aht they need to "adapt", now when I think of Adapt I think of adapting to the market but still being yourself, the way I'm seeing adapt on this forum is "here's Playstation, this is how they won (not really a win/other two hardly tried), Nintendo should totally emulate everything the winner does".

The last thing I expect or want from Nintendo is peach trying to pull a bayonetta to appeal to some crowd that's never been into Nintendo, this whole "let's dump one crowd for another that helps us adapt!" is another stupid made up reason to change, you can still change but hold the same exact appeal to the same crowd and still bring in new people, it happens every day for every company.

People need to stop warping the idea of adaptation and actually look into it a bit deeply, it;s not just copy and be like company A and they shouldn't have to even be like company A, it's like asking a cat to evolve and adapt to be more like a dog because the dog has better feet/bigger size, yet the two are totally different.

I'm saying that Retro should make new western IPs to the perceived prestige of Naughty Dog.

Why? If Nintendo really though that would be a good idea, then they would just buy a developer to do that...