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Xenostar on 30 March 2015
Ruler said:
Xenostar said:

OP is so off, From never betrayed Sony or Sony fans, it was Sony who betrayed From and Sony fans, by saying demosn souls was a turd and not releasing it outside of Japan, forcing From to find other publishers to do it.

Sony only realised thier mistake after Dark souls, thankfully theyve managed to get From back on side.

 

Edit:

So i disagree whole completley and no Sony should not betray From again, by taking Bloodborne from them. 

Sony funded Demon Souls, without them From Software wouldnt be what they are today because the souls games roots started as a playstatione exclusives.

And yes a lot of people bought demon souls also because it was an exclusives, and we are talking about 2009 when this game came out. Playstation 3 had only MGS4 and demons souls as worthy titles at that time until uncharted 2 and god of war 3 came out and changed the ties.

Alot of people bought it dispite Sony, it took two other publishers for the world wide release of this game. If Sony has had there way it would of been dead and buried after the Japanese launch. They had no faith in it as a world wide brand. 

From made sure the rest of the world got to play this game despite Sony's "Betrayal" of saying it wasnt worth publishing outside of Japan. 

From will always carry on making games but they do need a publisher, Sony passed they went to the next publisher. There was no betrayal, they just want to make games and they need publishers to do that. A multiplatform publisher will clearly want the game to be multiplatform. 



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Kami on 30 March 2015
Imnus said:
Kami said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Lol like Sony is gonna pay for 2+ million game sales.  If Sony was gonna go that they would have secured bigger exclusives like FFXV or MGSV, again think about this logically.  From walked away with the engine the first time.  I don't want another response of you posting your assumptions as facts, if you don't have any sources to back up what your saying don't bother responding. 

Demon's Souls ran off the Havok engine bro lol From didn't walk away with anything special plus Sony doesn't own the Demon's Souls IP, They alon with Atlus and Namco own it together. Sony paid off SFV so which is a much bigger franchise so why wouldn't the pay off Bloodborne? Lmao where do you come telling me what to do? You want facts? Here you go.

Demons Souls ran off a engine me and you could buy: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=demons%20souls%20engine

Sony owns the BloodBorne IP and assets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodborne

"The Bloodborne name and franchise is a product of Sony Computer Entertainment and parent company Sony Corportation. This includes all assets including the use of 'name' and technologies associated in the production of Bloodborne"

Do you what that means? That means Sony owns the game and everything used to create it. Ready At Dawn doesn't own the engine made to create The Order: 1886 do they? No they don't say the couldnt use it to make a multiplatform game. 


Sony do in fact own the Demon's Souls IP, it's just that third party publishers licensed it from Sony, Atlus in North America and Namco Bandai in Europe. Source: Sony Talks The Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, And The Vita Launch.

On the other hand From Software doesn't like multiplatform developing, but Namco Bandai who owns Dark Souls wanted the game on every console specially giving how strong was the 360 in NA, and then the game really caught the attention of PC gamers that clamoured for it and of course Namco Bandai obliged.

However I read that that From Software particularly hated developing for PC, so it's not completely unreasonable that they'll go back to developing exclusively for PlayStation specially now with how successful the PS4 is. I do think we should see Dark Souls 3 at least, multiplatform of course.

 

KingdomHeartsFan said:
Kami said:

But what your not mentioning is how sony never even approached From take make Demons Souls at all. 3 different companies own the Demons Souls IP with SCEJ just happening to be the japanese one but SCEJ did nothing as far as developement. The Bottom line is Sony owns the Bloodborne IP and Assets. The actual appeal in working with From Software is so Sony can have an engine to make future Bloodborne titles for the PS4 not so From can take it and make more multiplat games. Again why do you say Bloodborne is From's game? It's not it's SCEJ games with From as a co developer. 

Your logic makes no sense...the way your saying it is Fromsoftware gets nothing out of this deal, hell they lose millions of sales by not releasing their game on PC and Xbox.  No one in their right mind would take that deal.  Take a step back and think about this logically. 


Actually you're the one that doesn't make sense, of course From Software gets something out of it, a ton of money for developing the games. They don't lose millions of sales by not releasing their game on PC and Xbox, because that's not their problem, they're a developer not a publisher.

Sony is the publisher here and they would gladly lose the sales on PC and Xbox.

I didn't actually know that. I thought since there were 3 publishers they all had shares in the IP and I thought the reason why Deomon's Souls never came to Xbox or PC was because Sony wasn't going to let go of their shares. 



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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 30 March 2015
TheObserver said:
Dark Souls going multiplat was all on Sony, they didn't realize the importance of these games until it was too late.
Miyazaki has said he doesn't like making direct sequels, something most publishers frown upon. Sony is pretty cool with letting developers try out new IPs, so I'm pretty sure they'll just give Miyazaki money to make whatever he wants to next. Capcom on the other hand will want another Dark Souls sequel which will be left to B-team.

not direct sequels but all his games have been in roughly the same frame.  That's not a knock ND does it too now with action-adventure TPS.



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TheObserver on 30 March 2015
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
TheObserver said:
Dark Souls going multiplat was all on Sony, they didn't realize the importance of these games until it was too late.
Miyazaki has said he doesn't like making direct sequels, something most publishers frown upon. Sony is pretty cool with letting developers try out new IPs, so I'm pretty sure they'll just give Miyazaki money to make whatever he wants to next. Capcom on the other hand will want another Dark Souls sequel which will be left to B-team.

not direct sequels but all his games have been in roughly the same frame.  That's not a knock ND does it too now with action-adventure TPS.

That's normal, most developers are good at just certain genres and they just do that. And it's not just games it's the same with pretty much every art form be it music or movies, most musicians make one type of music and most directors make one type of movies.
I think a producer/publisher still deserves credit for allowing an artist to do what they actually want to do, so we get more inspired and passionate pieces of art. Cause most people with money try to force them to keep working on sequels cause it's safer, the reason bungie left MS was cause MS wouldn't allow them to work on a new IP for example.



KLXVER on 30 March 2015

They betrayed PlayStation fans because they wanted to make their games accessible to more gamers...?



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Puppyroach on 30 March 2015

How can they betray fans if they aren't owned by Sony? Hopefully they will stay commited to Bloodborne on PS4, I like it when some series are exclusive. But I sure hope they develop for others as well



Puppyroach on 30 March 2015

How can they betray fans if they aren't owned by Sony? Hopefully they will stay commited to Bloodborne on PS4, I like it when some series are exclusive. But I sure hope they develop for others as well



Uabit on 30 March 2015
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Betray Playstation fans?  A "Redborne" would still release on PS4.  You should just be happy more gamers get to enjoy these great games.


Do you know what you are asking? People that wants everyone to enjoy games no matter the system they play on is very rare nowdays...



TheObserver on 30 March 2015
Soriku said:
Ruler said:


Sony Studio Japan came up with the whole concept like Kami is saying. They came with the whole idea about the setting, with the gothic enverioment, the hunters, the horror theme and the guns. It was only FromSoftware who added the Souls Games mechanics into it.


Source?

lol at "betray us"...Dark Souls 1 and 2 were also great games despite being multiplat (like this makes much of a difference).

Bloodborne seems to be really popular and I'd be surprised if Sony and From don't work on another game again, whether that's Bloodborne 2 or whatever else. But Dark Souls 3 is likely coming next by the Dark Souls 2 team, and obviously multiplat.

https://youtu.be/oiGPTI06fn8?t=2m57s



vkaraujo on 30 March 2015

I don't think it is worth for Sony.

Having the first souls of a gen is a good move because the loyal fanbase will follow, after that, there is no problem with it being multiplataform and would not worth the money.